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RE: Instant Runnoff voting

It is not on the development radar at the moment.  I did 90% of an IR/PR client side implementation for AVTS.  It was the “real thing”, not a dummy up, but I must concede the client side part is the easy part. 


We have precinct based optical scan that works with VTS in Cambridge.  It would need a re-write before it interacted with GEMS.  Then there is the high speed central count project that can’t yet count first pass the post, so IR is a ways off there as well.


Nothing done at all in GEMS.  The server side is where the real work in IR/PR voting lies.





-----Original Message-----
From: owner-support@dieboldes.com [mailto:owner-support@dieboldes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:59 PM
To: support@dieboldes.com
Subject: FW: Instant Runnoff voting


What is status of GEMS op scan IR voting and the status of touch screen.  We did dummy up something for Santa Clara.  This is another of those "coming soon" items, that will need to be part of GEMS and incorporated into touch screen and optical scan.


Dave Elliot is SOS office certification person for state of Washington.  Would anyone in support repond TO ME please, NOT to Dave directly, regarding our status with IR voting.  I will respond to Dave.




-----Original Message-----
From: Elliott, David [mailto:delliott@secstate.wa.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:04 AM
To: 'Doug Lewis'; Yvonne Smith; Brit Williams; Carolyn Coggins; Connie Schmidt; Elliott, David; Denise Lamb; Donna Royson; Gail Audette; Jay Nispel; Jim Dearman; Joe Hazeltine; Paul Craft; Penelope Bonsall; Robert Naegele; Sandy Steinbach; Shawn Southworth; Steve Freeman; Tom Harrison; Tom Wilkey; Brian Hancock (bhancock@fec.gov); John Mott-smith (jmsmith@ss.ca.gov); John Uschold (vote@fvap.gov); Mike Alvarez (rma@hss.caltech.edu); Scott Wiedmann (jswiedmann@fvap.ncr.gov); Steve Bolton (smbolton@essvote.com); Steve Knecht (stevek@dieboldes.com); Ted Selker (selker@media.mit.edu); Tim Knust (tjknust@essvote.com); Zoe Hudson (hudson@constitutionproject.org); 'jsuver@hartic.com'; 'nmcclure@co.hartic.com'
Cc: Logan, Dean
Subject: Instant Runnoff voting

Hi all,


It is legislative session time and we are again working with members of our citizenry on the topic of Instant Runoff Voting (IRV).  I often end up testifying against these proposals on the grounds that the vendors and their software are not ready to deal with this type of voting. 


I would prefer to take bureaucracy out of the equation and let policy dictate.


Does anyone knows of any vendor or product (on the market or certified) that can count IRV ballots.  Last year I found one company that is working with Cambridge MA called Voting Solutions.  With the effort in San Francisco, there must be some activity on this.  Any and all information is appreciated, even if the answer is no or I don't know.


To the Vendors; Can your products support this, today and if in the future, when?


I also need costs and estimated costs for converting your existing equipment to handle IRV, ranked voting and proportional voting.






David M. Elliott, Assistant Director of Elections

Office of the Secretary of State

PO Box 40237 Olympia, WA 98504

Please note my new phone number and e-mail address:

Voice 360.902.4162  Fax 360.664.4619