Welcome to The Clam Bed

Carnegie Mellon's legal counsel, Mr. Walter DeForest, is trying to figure out the legal status of the OT materials I had previously included on my Church of Scientology International v. Fishman and Geertz web page. Until he has made a determination as to their status, I will not serve those or other disputed materials from my computer, because I don't want to get CMU needlessly sued.

In the interim, I know that people are curious about the OT materials and would like to learn more about them. Many sites on the net contain samples of these materials. Some of this stuff might be protected under copyright law. Some might be protected as trade secrets. Some might be in the public domain, or be covered by the doctrine of ``fair use.'' And some might even appear with the Church's blessing. Since I'm not a lawyer, I can't sort this out for myself. I have to assume that the people who put up these web sites have made their own legal determinations or reached their own agreements with the Church about what they may put online. As I become aware of such web sites, I will put a pointer to them on this page.

Legal note: I am not copying this material to any CMU machine or making it available to other people. I am merely publishing the URLs for files in cyberspace that interest me. One of my areas of professional interest as a computer scientist is freedom of expression in cyberspace. My understanding is that URLs cannot be copyrighted, and publishing a URL for a copyrighted work is not a copyright violation. For more information about this, see the Association for Computing Machinery's copyright policy .

Complete Fishman File in Sweden

Zenon Panoussis has put the complete Fishman declaration (including both the full text of OT II and OT III and the Michael Robinson/Karin Spaink summaries) on a web site in Sweden.

Fishman in Holland

The Church attack on XS4ALL, a Dutch Internet provider, caused widespread indignation in Holland. Details of the raid, as reconstructed for a Dutch television program (including pictures), are available here.

Favorite Dutch Fish Finders

Historically Important Fishman Sites

100 Dutch Fishman Sites (as of October 28, 1995)

Some of these URLs point to single text files with the Fishman Declaration (including OT levels.) Some are pointers to web sites with the various Fishman documents broken down into separate files, as in the CMU site. Some contain various other materials, such as the Scarff deposition, or the FACTNet press kit. For a complete labeling, see The FishNet.
  1. http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw
  2. http://huizen.dds.nl/~dvgeely/Co$/fishman.html
  3. http://www.cistron.nl/~newkid/info.html
  4. http://www.pi.net/~kspaink
  5. http://www.euronet.nl/users/ralph/fish
  6. http://www.euronet.nl/users/cherribi/fish.html
  7. http://www.euronet.nl/users/astrolab/fish.html
  8. http://www.cistron.nl/~nctnico/acos.htm
  9. http://www.pi.net/~cvk
  10. http://kafka.nl.com
  11. http://imagine.xs4all.nl/~Co$
  12. http://www.xs4all.nl/~mderaaij/co$/
  13. http://www.xs4all.nl/~fons
  14. http://www.xs4all.nl/~mmoring
  15. http://www.xs4all.nl/~rudydok/fish.htm
  16. http://student.twi.tudelft.nl/~s075104/coituscos.html
  17. http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/fishman/home.htm
  18. http://huizen.dds.nl/~erikt/
  19. http://www.getit.net/TheFreeSoul/Fishman/
  20. http://www.telebyte.nl/~erikv/fish/index.html
  21. http://www.xs4all.nl/~andrevs/fish.htm
  22. http://www.xs4all.nl/~dazed/
  23. http://huizen.dds.nl/~greeny
  24. http://www.bart.nl/~mike
  25. http://morra.et.tudelft.nl/~niels/fishman/index.htm
  26. http://www.xs4all.nl/~respub/fishman/
  27. http://huizen.dds.nl/~marik
  28. http://www.omroep.nl/tros/radio/radio1/fish/fish.html Tros On-line
  29. http://www.xs4all.nl/~pigeon/fishman.html
  30. http://www.bart.nl/~irmed/index.html
  31. http://lagavulin.xs4all.nl/fish.html
  32. http://www.xs4all.nl/~txtbreed/Co$.htm
  33. http://www.xs4all.nl/~bakker/fishman.html
  34. http://huizen.dds.nl/~apz/
  35. http://www.psy.vu.nl/~edde/vispapier.html
  36. http://www.globalxs.nl/home/p/pnefkens/
  37. http://www.iaehv.nl/users/perry/religion/cos/fishman/
  38. http://www.pi.net/~henkl/fishman.html
  39. http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink
  40. http://www.xs4all.nl/~marten
  41. http://www.xs4all.nl/~bertje
  42. http://www.xs4all.nl/~deriet
  43. http://www.cistron.nl/~todd
  44. http://liathach.xs4all.nl/index.htm
  45. http://www.xs4all.nl/~lkfv
  46. http://www.dataweb.nl/~kees
  47. BBS APS (Amsterdam)
  48. BBS De Zwarte Ster (The Hague)
  49. http://www.bart.nl/~mrsempel
  50. http://www.noord.bart.nl/~brenny
  51. http://www.sci.kun.nl/math/knopen/scientology.tar.gz
  52. http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~jozwa/fishman.html
  53. http://www.xs4all.nl/~mdols
  54. http://www.xs4all.nl/~cba
  55. http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjansen
  56. http://www.pi.net/~oest
  57. http://www.xs4all.nl/~hrood
  58. http://www.dds.nl/~groene De Groene
  59. http://www.xs4all.nl/~peter
  60. http://huizen.dds.nl/~dktp/home.html
  61. http://www.xs4all.nl/~rigolett
  62. http://studs2.sci.kun.nl:6667/
  63. http://www.xs4all.nl/~dude
  64. http://www.xs4all.nl/~claudio
  65. http://www.xs4all.nl/~erwin/
  66. http://www.xs4all.nl/~ericv
  67. http://www.xs4all.nl/~reinoud
  68. http://huizen.dds.nl/~bigblack/fishman.html
  69. http://www.xs4all.nl/~ccampagn
  70. http://www.xs4all.nl/~frederik
  71. http://www.telebyte.nl/~edwins
  72. http://polder.ubc.kun.nl/ot/index.html
  73. http://huizen.dds.nl/~huwie
  74. http://www.wirehub.nl/~herrie
  75. http://huizen.dds.nl/~waa/
  76. http://www.wirehub.nl/~bvw/fishman.txt
  77. http://www.telebyte.nl/~mkloen/
  78. http://www.telebyte.nl/~wijnmar
  79. http://www.xs4all.nl/~pvdh
  80. http://www.xs4all.nl/~jvhaarst/fishman
  81. http://wwwis.cs.utwente.nl:8080/~tempelma/scent/scent.html
  82. http://www.luna.nl/~wimw
  83. http://www.xs4all.nl/~hveldman
  84. http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhagman
  85. http://mediaport.org/~aleph/
  86. http://www.xs4all.nl/~tsb1esg
  87. http://studs2.sci.kun.nl:6666/
  88. http://www.xs4all.nl/~mfriends
  89. http://www.xs4all.nl/~hneel
  90. http://www.pvda.nl/mlist/fm/index.html Back from the Morgue!
  91. http://www.xs4all.nl/~anco/vis.html
  92. http://www.xs4all.nl/~wouterke
  93. http://www.gig.nl/people/wouter
  94. http://www.gig.nl/people/anco
  95. http://www.luna.nl/~mare/ Back from the Morgue!
  96. http://adam.fwi.uva.nl/~joris/fishman/
  97. http://www.luna.nl/~chrisdb/
  98. http://huizen.dds.nl/~mder/fishman.html
  99. http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterk
  100. http://www.let.ruu.nl/C+L/kunenborg/home.html

Swedish Site (April 1996)


Finland Site

Fishman Declaration (PGPed) at WWW.HELSINKI.FI (Finland)

German Site


UK Site


USA Sites

The Scarff Deposition

Extensive excerpts from a truly horrifying deposition about the Church's many illegal activities, including conspiracy to commit murder, and the drowning of a judge's dog. For the latest registry, see The Scarff Rack.
  1. http://thok.let.rug.nl/danny/scarff/
  2. http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~onno/scarff.html
  3. http://www.xs4all.nl/~txtbreed/Co$.htm
  4. http:/www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~jozwa/scarff.txt
  5. http://studs2.sci.kun.nl:6666/
  6. http://www.iaehv.nl/users/paul/fishman/scarff.html
  7. http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~paul/scarff.html
  8. http://www.cistron.nl/newkid
  9. http://www.cistron.nl/~nctnico/acos.htm
  10. http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~goofy/Co$/scarff.txt
  12. http://www.euronet.nl/users/ralph/fish/scarff.html
  13. http://www.noord.bart.nl/~brenny/co$.html
  14. http://www.globalxs.nl/home/p/pnefkens/scarff.html
  15. http://www.let.ruu.nl/C+L/kunenborg/home.html

The Morgue (Dead Fish Sites)

Interesting Materials at Other Sites

The General Morgue

Web sites that have been taken down, and why

Back to the Fishman page

David S. Touretzky
Computer Science Department & Center for the Neural Basis of Cognition
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890