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RE: VIBS 10key pad



What may be logical may not be ADA compliant.  I'm dropping this thread because there's obviously been no investigation into this matter.  A phone call will go through to the agency responsible for ADA and a answer will be found.  I'll let you know what the outcome is.
 
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of John McLaurin
Sent: January 15, 2001 1:01 PM
To: support@gesn.com
Subject: RE: VIBS 10key pad

Sherry Rose may know due to the ADA situation in Texas.  But in general, doesn’t it seem likely that a telephone type is the most logical from a sales perspective. Why have to explain some unusual format keyboard.  KISS logic.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:50 PM
To: support@gesn.com
Subject: Re: VIBS 10key pad

 

I don't know the answer to that.  I haven't been designing the system.  However, I have (in the general election in Alameda) personally walked blind voters over to the touchscreen, sat them down, explained the keypad config with the raised bump and everyone understood it.  I don't know what happens when you throw a keypad with a NumLock, /,*,-,+,Enter,., keys into the mix.  Maybe it works for them too.  Whoever is doing the design has probably checked this out - I would think.

----- Original Message -----

To: support@gesn.com

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 10:23 AM

Subject: RE: VIBS 10key pad

 

So is the "telephone" style keypad the only ADA compliant format?  Has this been confirmed?

 

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Barry Herron
Sent: January 15, 2001 9:32 AM
To: support@gesn.com
Subject: Re: VIBS 10key pad

Ian,

 

My comments were spoken in general terms from conversation and research I had done awhile ago.  The issue at hand is to have a device that is ADA compliant and not a quick fix to the problem.

I certainly did not mean to imply what we were using for the immediate demos was to be our solution.  Our search must continue.

 

Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian S. Piper <ian@gesn.com>
To: support@gesn.com <support@gesn.com>
Date: Monday, January 15, 2001 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: VIBS 10key pad

Barry Herron had spoken with the some association dealing with the blind (ask him which one specifically) and they had stated it didn't matter what style of numeric keypad you had, as long as you told the blind voter which one it was.  Is our search for a telephone style keypad a waste of time?

 

Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Larry Dix
Sent: January 15, 2001 8:01 AM
To: support@gesn.com
Subject: RE: VIBS 10key pad

We are aware that it needs to be presented in the phone keypad orientation, but we had to rush to get you a keypad for demonstration.  We can have not been able to find one in the phone orientation at all of the local places, ie Best Buy, CompUSA etc.

Larry J. Dix

Vice President of Operations

Global Election Systems

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-support@gesn.com [mailto:owner-support@gesn.com]On Behalf Of Steve Knecht
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:48 PM
To: Global Support
Subject: Fw: VIBS 10key pad

The 10 key pad we are looking for is for ADA compliance with a phone keypad with raised bump on 5.  I'm sure you are aware of this.  The unit recieved is a 10 keypad off a computer keyboard, with keys laid out in different config. 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Knecht

To: Larry Dix ; Don@gesn.com ; Jeff Hallmark

Cc: Frank Kaplan ; Barry Herron

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 11:06 AM

Subject: VIBS 10key pad

The 10-keypad I received on Saturday for our demonstration at the Secretary of State's Technology day arrived.  I tested it this AM.  Each time I place a vibs voter card into the machine and respond to a candidate position - it CANCELs the ballot.  This does not appear to lend itself to a demonstration.  Are there some special instructions I'm missing?  We've got to have a working 10 key pad for this week and next. 

 

Steve Knecht
Global Election Systems
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