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-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor, Michael E 
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 7:43 AM
To: Salhotra, Rajneesh; Woods, Trevor
Subject: FW: Re: Thank you - another question

More info from Boilermakers

-----Original Message-----
From: mike taylor [mailto:lsutaylor@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 7:41 AM
To: Taylor, Michael E
Subject: Fwd: Re: Thank you - another question





>From: Ande Abbott <aabbott@cox.rr.com>
>To: mike taylor <lsutaylor@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Thank you - another question
>Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 21:33:32 -0400
>
>There are 11 basic trade unions that are involved with each of the SCR
>installations.  I don't know if any non union contractors are installing
>SCRs - I would be surprised if there not some non-union firms involved in
>the South.  I only see the ones that our members install and the ones that
>our signatory contractors bid.  I don't see all the Request for Proposals.
>Each union has a jurisdiction that is unique to their craft.  The unions
>are
>the Operating Engineers, Insulators, Sheet Metal Workers, Laborers,
>Boilermakers, Iron Workers, Electrical Workers, Teamsters, Painters,
>Pipefitters and the Carpenters.
>
>The prime contractor or subcontractors would use a mix of each unions
>skills.  Pre-job conferences with the contractors allow the unions to know
>what skills are needed and when.  Once the construction schedule is set
>then
>the skilled manpower arrive to the job as scheduled.  The skill levels are
>normally predetermined by the union based on records in the files and by
>the
>test documentation.  Boilermakers are pre-tested for drugs and weld tested
>prior to getting to the job site.  Each craft will typically have a ratio
>of
>apprentices mixed with skilled workers.
>
>Since all the unions share the work they all become very proficient in
>their
>duties.
>
>I hope this is helpful.
>
>Ande Abbott
>
> > From: "mike taylor" <lsutaylor@hotmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 21:52:07 +0000
> > To: andea@erols.com
> > Subject: Thank you - another question
> >
> >
> > Ande,
> >
> > Thank you very much for the information.  I was figuring that many
> > constraints was going to be the answer.
> >
> > I am curious.  The labors who install the SCRs are they in unions?  How
>many
> > unions have the labors capable of installing the SCRs?  Is it one or two
>or
> > is 30 union?  Are there any people outside a union that installs SCRs?
> >
> > Thanks for the info,
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Ande Abbott <aabbott@cox.rr.com>
> >> To: mike taylor <lsutaylor@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: SCR installations
> >> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:41:46 -0400
> >>
> >> Michael - First I don't seeLabor as being the "main restraint."  Some
>plant
> > owners
> >> are very reluctant to get started on projects because of the New Source
> > Review
> >> requirements of EPA.  The cost of permitting and dealing with EPA keep
> > some
> >> plant owners from moving too quickly.
> >>
> >> It is impossible to predict the number of SCR's that could be installed
> >> because there are too many factors that must be taken into
> > consideration.
> >> Things like weather, permits, size of the job, prime contractor bidding
> >> process, parts availability, manpower, scheduling the installation to
> > match
> >> the normal outage, financing and etc.  As long as the construction
> >> schedules come at a reasonable pace there should not be any problems of
> >> manpower. Everything else is so hard to calculate.  The engineering is
> >> usually
> > pretty
> >> good - but several units gave our guys fits to construct.  We pride
> >> ourselves on delivering a job on time and at or below cost.  However we
> > can
> >> only deal with those issues that are within our ability to control.
> >>
> >> I'm sorry I can't be more specific but it isn't like piano tuning where
> > all
> >> facts are known and every job nearly the same.
> >>
> >> Ande Abbott
> >>
> >>> From: "mike taylor" <lsutaylor@hotmail.com> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001
> >> 16:04:42 +0000 > To: andea@erols.com > Subject: SCR installations > >
>Dear
> >> Ande Abbott, > > I am a college student following the NOx emmissions
> >> regulations.  I
> > read
> >>> your inteligent quotes on skilled labors in "Clean Air Compliance
> >> Review". > > There may be a rush to install SCRs so the plants can
>become
> > compliant
> >> by > 2003 or 2004.  I was trying to get a figure on the maximun number
>of
> >
> >> SCRs > that could be installed per month or per non summer season with
> > labor
> >> being > the main restraint. > > If you could shed any light on this
>area, I
> >> would really appreciate
> > it.
> >>>> Sincerely, > Michael > >
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