J - Thanks.  The number of "trashers" is pretty high.  MEK

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Shankman, Jeffrey A.  
Sent:	Friday, October 26, 2001 10:30 AM
To:	Koenig, Mark
Subject:	

A friend of mine was at a fund conference this week and mentioned to me that there are a couple of guys from Furman Selz (part of ING bank) that are trashing us pretty loudly.  The guys name is Andrew Gundlach who is one of their fund managers.

Jeff