Framework would also need to be conceptual and able to be expressed in a way 
that a legislator can readily grasp.? Also needs to be at a high enough level 
of abstraction to encompass and refute expected counter arguments.? 

Pls consider responding to UDC filings to track for future recovery the 
'foregone revenues' associated with ABx28's waiver of standby charges.? Devil 
is often in details of advice letters like these - UDCs like to set policy by 
advice letter because they have a short protest fuse (20 calendar days) and 
few pay attention to them.? Can we compare notes on these UDC filings?? 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Frank_Frankini@equityoffice.com 
[mailto:Frank_Frankini@equityoffice.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:53 PM 
To: Kevin Duggan 
Cc: Andy Brown (E-mail) (E-mail); 'Angelina Galiteva (E-mail)'; 'AI 
Figueroa (E-mail)'; 'Ganesh Ananthasubramaniam (E-mail)'; 'Aaron Thomas 
(E-mail)'; 'Beth Dunlop (E-mail)'; 'Bill Brooks (E-mail)'; Bob Miller 
(E-mail); 'Charles T. Halnan (E-mail)'; 'Charles Budd (E-mail)'; 'Carl 
Lower (E-mail) (E-mail)'; 'Cris Cooley (E-mail)'; Dan Cashdan; 'Daniel 
J. Dessanti (E-mail)'; 'Dennis L. Randall Jr. (E-mail)'; 'David 
Goldstein (E-mail)'; 'Dian Grueneich (E-mail) (E-mail)'; 'Diane I. 
Fellman (E-mail)'; 'D. J. Smith (E-mail)'; 'Duane Lappinga P.E. 
(E-mail)'; 'Dominic DiMare (E-mail)'; Douglas Grandy (E-mail); 'David 
Palmer (E-mail)'; 'Dorothy Rothrock (E-mail)'; 'Daniel S. Shugar P.E. 
(E-mail)'; 'David Townley (E-mail)'; 'Frank Duesel (E-mail)'; 'Eloy Z. 
Garcia (E-mail)'; 'Eric Wong (E-mail)'; 'Eric R. Wong (E-mail)'; 'James 
Gariepy (E-mail)'; 'Gary C. Matteson (E-mail)'; 'Geoffry Ayers 
(E-mail)'; Greg Husebye (E-mail); 'David H. Lesser (E-mail)'; 
hfinken@ect.enron.com; 'Henry Mak (E-mail)'; hmertens@energy.twc.com; 
'G. Paul Horst (E-mail)'; 'Jim Trudeau (E-mail)'; 'Julie Spezia 
(E-mail)'; 'James A. Westbrook (E-mail)'; 'Jayme Murray Chick (E-mail)'; 
Jeffrey R. Jacobson (E-mail); 'Jeff Dasovich (E-mail)'; jna@olywa.net; 
'John W. Jimison (E-mail)'; Jonathan M. Teague (E-mail); 'Jay Morse 
(E-mail) (E-mail)'; 'Karen Lindh (E-mail)'; Kevin Duggan; Kari Smith 
(E-mail); 'Linda Sherif (E-mail)'; Mark J. Skowronski (E-mail); 'Cameron 
"Mac" Moore (E-mail)'; 'Jim DiCarlo (E-mail)'; 'Patrick S. McLafferty 
(E-mail)'; Nick Cimino (E-mail); 'Paul H. Eichenberger P.E. (E-mail)'; 
'Dick Cartwright (E-mail)'; 'Dorothy E. Rothrock (E-mail)'; Rachel Paul; 
'Bill Morrow (E-mail)'; 'Steven Greenberg'; 'Leslie S. Spahnn (E-mail)'; 
steven.bloch@honeywell.com; 'Ted J. Bischak (E-mail)'; 'Tim Charters 
(E-mail)'; 'A. J. "Tony" Occhionero (E-mail)'; todoc1@aol.com; 'Tom R. 
Casten (E-mail)'; 'John White (E-mail)'; 'Bob Wichert (E-mail)' 
Subject: RE: Committee on Ways and Means 


I agree with Kevin, the real issue always turns out to be wrapped around a 
definition of safety, reliability .....etc; that is defined by the utility. 
Even now in deregulated markets they act as if they are in competition with 
the DG owners (in some ways they are in competition because the KWH that is 
produced and used on site may not be producing T & D revenue for the 
utility). Without a real standard that defines a framework for a technical 
solution, we will always struggle with this issue. 

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????????????????? 
??????????????????? Kevin 
Duggan????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?????????? 
??????????????????? <kduggan@capstonetu??????? To:???? 'Steven Greenberg' 
<sgreenberg@realenergy.com>, "'A. J.???? 
??????????????????? rbine.com>???????????????? \"Tony\" Occhionero (E-mail)'" 
<tocchionero@agcc.org>, "'Aaron????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? Thomas (E-mail)'" 
<athomas@newenergy.com>, "'AI Figueroa (E-mail)'" 
??????????????????? 06/11/2001 07:49 PM??????? <al_figueroa@vflet.com>, 
"'Angelina Galiteva (E-mail)'"???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <agalit@ladwp.com>, "'Beth 
Dunlop (E-mail)'"??????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <BDunlop@gralegal.com>, "'Bill 
Brooks (E-mail)'"??????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <billb@endecon.com>, "'Beth 
Dunlop (E-mail)'"?????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <BDunlop@gralegal.com>, "'Bill 
Morrow (E-mail)'"??????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <senator.morrow@sen.ca.gov>, 
"'Bob Wichert (E-mail)'"?????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <wichert@fuelcells.org>, 
"'Cameron \"Mac\" Moore (E-mail)'"???????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <moorecm@bp.com>, "'Carl Lower 
(E-mail) (E-mail)'"????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <clower@earthlink.net>, 
"'Charles Budd (E-mail)'"?????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <charles.r.budd@ucm.com>, 
"'Charles T. Halnan (E-mail)'"??????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <CHALNAN@NS.NET>, "'Cris 
Cooley (E-mail)'" <crisman@west.net>, "'D. 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? J. Smith (E-mail)'" 
<djsmith@smithandkempton.com>, "'Daniel J.????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? Dessanti (E-mail)'" 
<ddessanti@keyspanenergy.com>, "'Daniel S.????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? Shugar P.E. (E-mail)'" 
<dshugar@powerlight.com>, "'David H. Lesser? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? (E-mail)'" 
<hbp1@email.msn.com>, "'David Palmer (E-mail)'"????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <dpalmer@endecogroup.com>, 
"'David Townley (E-mail)'"?????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <dtownley@newenergy.com>, 
"'Dennis L. Randall Jr. (E-mail)'"??????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <dennis.randall@opuswest.com>, 
"'Dian Grueneich (E-mail) (E-mail)'" 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <dgrueneich@gralegal.com>, 
"'Diane I. Fellman (E-mail)'"??????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? 
<difellman@energy-law-group.com>, "'Dick Cartwright (E-mail)'"????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <rlcart@earthlink.net>, 
"'Dominic DiMare (E-mail)'"???????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? 
<dominic.dimare@calchamber.com>, "'Dorothy Rothrock (E-mail)'"????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <drothrock@camfg.com>, "'Duane 
Lappinga P.E. (E-mail)'"???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <DLappi@Ardenrealty.com>, 
"'Eloy Z. Garcia (E-mail)'"?????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <egarcia@ka-pow.com>, "'Eric 
R. Wong (E-mail)'"???????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <erwong@worldnet.att.net>, 
"'Eric Wong (E-mail)'"?????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <erwon@worldnet.att.net>, 
"'Frank Duesel (E-mail)'"???????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <dueselfr@nmenergy.com>, 
"'Frank Frankini (E-mail)'"??????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? 
<frank_frankini@equityoffice.com>, "'G. Paul Horst (E-mail)'"?????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <horstg@dteenergy.com>, 
"'Ganesh Ananthasubramaniam (E-mail)'"????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? 
<ananthasubramaniamg@dteenergy.com>, "'Geoffry Ayers (E-mail)'"???? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <gayres@socalgas.com>, "'Henry 
Mak (E-mail)'" <hmak@socalqds.com>,? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? "'James A. Westbrook 
(E-mail)'" <jaw@wei-air.com>, "'James Gariepy? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? (E-mail)'" 
<gariepyj@dteenergy.com>, "'Jay Morse (E-mail)?????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? (E-mail)'" <jxm@cpuc.ca.gov>, 
"'Jayme Murray Chick (E-mail)'"?????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <jayme.murray@sen.ca.gov>, 
"'Jayme Chick (E-mail)'"???????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <jayme.murray@sen.ca.gov>, 
"'Jeff Dasovich (E-mail)'"?????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <Jeff_Dasovich@enron.com>, 
"'Jim DiCarlo (E-mail)'"???????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <nextek1@msn.com>, "'Jim 
Trudeau (E-mail)'"???????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <James_Trudeau@enron.com>, 
"'John W. Jimison (E-mail)'"???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <johnj@bcjlaw.com>, "'John 
White (E-mail)'" <vjw@cleanpower.org>,?? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? "'Julie Spezia (E-mail)'" 
<jaspezia@aol.com>, "'Karen Lindh???????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? (E-mail)'" <karen@klindh.com>, 
"'Leslie S. Spahnn (E-mail)'"??????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <spahnn@hnks.com>, "'Tim 
Charters (E-mail)'"??????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <tim.charters@mail.house.gov>, 
"'Tom R. Casten (E-mail)'"?????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <Trcasten@aol.com>, "'Aaron 
Thomas (E-mail)'"?????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <athomas@newenergy.com>, "Andy 
Brown (E-mail) (E-mail)"???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <abb@eslawfirm.com>, "Bob 
Miller (E-mail)" <bmiller@hess.com>,????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? "Cameron \"Mac\" Moore 
(E-mail)" <moorecm@bp.com>, "'Carl C. Lower? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? (E-mail)'" 
<clower@earthlink.net>, "Daniel J. Dessanti (E-mail)"??? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <ddessanti@keyspanenergy.com>, 
"'Dorothy E. Rothrock (E-mail)'"???? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <rothrock@ix.netcom.com>, 
"Douglas Grandy (E-mail)"???????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <doug.grandy@dgs.ca.gov>, 
"'Eric R. Wong (E-mail)'"???????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <erwong@worldnet.att.net>, 
"'Gary C. Matteson (E-mail)'"??????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <gary.matteson@ucop.edu>, 
"Greg Husebye (E-mail)"?????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <GHuseb@Ardenrealty.com>, 
hfinken@ect.enron.com,??????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? hmertens@energy.twc.com, 
"Jeffrey R. Jacobson (E-mail)"???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <jeff.jacobson@swgas.com>, 
jna@olywa.net, "Jonathan M. Teague?????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? (E-mail)" 
<jonathan.teague@dgs.ca.gov>, "Kari Smith (E-mail)"?????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <ksmith@powerlight.com>, Kevin 
Duggan?????????????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <kduggan@capstoneturbine.com>, 
"'Linda Sherif (E-mail)'"??????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <lys@aelaw.com>, "Mark J. 
Skowronski (E-mail)"????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? 
<mark.skowronski@honeywell.com>, "Nick Cimino (E-mail)"???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <nick.cimino@dgs.ca.gov>, 
"'Patrick S. McLafferty (E-mail)'"??????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <nextek3@msn.com>, "'Paul H. 
Eichenberger P.E. (E-mail)'"?????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <peichenberger@fce.com>, 
"RobertWichert (E-mail)"?????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <wichert@fuelcells.org>, 
steven.bloch@honeywell.com, "'Ted J.?????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? Bischak (E-mail)'" 
<tbischak@cwpla.com>, todoc1@aol.com???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? cc:???? Rachel Paul 
<rpaul@realenergy.com>, Dan Cashdan???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? <dcashdan@realenergy.com>, 
"'David Goldstein (E-mail)'"???????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? 
<dgoldstein@nrdc.org>?????????????????????????????????????????????? 
?????????????????????????????????????????????? Subject:???? RE: Committee on 
Ways and Means??????????????????????? 
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????????????????? 



1045 as drafted will not result in a national interconnection standard.? It 
simply requires the utilities to interconnect a DG unit if it meets the 
"Rules"? The "Rule" as drafted relate to the safety, reliability and power 
quality of the DG facility, not to the establishment of national 
interconnection standards.? As currently worded, the bill could do 
unintended harm to DG. 

I would suggest that any expression of support for 1045 be conditional on a 
change in the wording of the "Rule"? as follows 

"Within one year after the date of enactment of this section, the 
Commission 
shall promulgate a final rule to establish safety, reliability, and power 
quality standards relating to the interconnection of distributed 
generation...." 

Regards 
Kevin Duggan 
Capstone Turbine Corporation 
Phone: (818) 734-5455 
Fax: (818) 734-5385 
Web: www.microturbine.com 

?-----Original Message----- 
From:?????????? Steven Greenberg [mailto:sgreenberg@realenergy.com] 
Sent:?????????? Monday, June 11, 2001 4:42 PM 
To:??????? 'A. J. "Tony" Occhionero (E-mail)'; 'Aaron Thomas (E-mail)'; 'AI 
Figueroa (E-mail)'; 'Angelina Galiteva (E-mail)'; 'Beth Dunlop (E-mail)'; 
'Bill Brooks (E-mail)'; 'Beth Dunlop (E-mail)'; 'Bill Morrow (E-mail)'; 
'Bob 
Wichert (E-mail)'; 'Cameron "Mac" Moore (E-mail)'; 'Carl Lower (E-mail) 
(E-mail)'; 'Charles Budd (E-mail)'; 'Charles T. Halnan (E-mail)'; 'Cris 
Cooley (E-mail)'; 'D. J. Smith (E-mail)'; 'Daniel J. Dessanti (E-mail)'; 
'Daniel S. Shugar P.E. (E-mail)'; 'David H. Lesser (E-mail)'; 'David Palmer 
(E-mail)'; 'David Townley (E-mail)'; 'Dennis L. Randall Jr. (E-mail)'; 
'Dian 
Grueneich (E-mail) (E-mail)'; 'Diane I. Fellman (E-mail)'; 'Dick Cartwright 
(E-mail)'; 'Dominic DiMare (E-mail)'; 'Dorothy Rothrock (E-mail)'; 'Duane 
Lappinga P.E. (E-mail)'; 'Eloy Z. Garcia (E-mail)'; 'Eric R. Wong 
(E-mail)'; 
'Eric Wong (E-mail)'; 'Frank Duesel (E-mail)'; 'Frank Frankini (E-mail)'; 
'G. Paul Horst (E-mail)'; 'Ganesh Ananthasubramaniam (E-mail)'; 'Geoffry 
Ayers (E-mail)'; 'Henry Mak (E-mail)'; 'James A. Westbrook (E-mail)'; 
'James 
Gariepy (E-mail)'; 'Jay Morse (E-mail) (E-mail)'; 'Jayme Murray Chick 
(E-mail)'; 'Jayme Chick (E-mail)'; 'Jeff Dasovich (E-mail)'; 'Jim DiCarlo 
(E-mail)'; 'Jim Trudeau (E-mail)'; 'John W. Jimison (E-mail)'; 'John White 
(E-mail)'; 'Julie Spezia (E-mail)'; 'Karen Lindh (E-mail)'; 'Leslie S. 
Spahnn (E-mail)'; 'Tim Charters (E-mail)'; 'Tom R. Casten (E-mail)'; 'Aaron 
Thomas (E-mail)'; Andy Brown (E-mail) (E-mail); Bob Miller (E-mail); 
Cameron 
"Mac" Moore (E-mail); 'Carl C. Lower (E-mail)'; Daniel J. Dessanti 
(E-mail); 
'Dorothy E. Rothrock (E-mail)'; Douglas Grandy (E-mail); 'Eric R. Wong 
(E-mail)'; 'Gary C. Matteson (E-mail)'; Greg Husebye (E-mail); 
hfinken@ect.enron.com; hmertens@energy.twc.com; Jeffrey R. Jacobson 
(E-mail); jna@olywa.net; Jonathan M. Teague (E-mail); Kari Smith (E-mail); 
Kevin Duggan (E-mail); 'Linda Sherif (E-mail)'; Mark J. Skowronski 
(E-mail); 
Nick Cimino (E-mail); 'Patrick S. McLafferty (E-mail)'; 'Paul H. 
Eichenberger P.E. (E-mail)'; RobertWichert (E-mail); 
steven.bloch@honeywell.com; 'Ted J. Bischak (E-mail)'; todoc1@aol.com 
Cc:??????? Rachel Paul; Dan Cashdan; 'David Goldstein (E-mail)' 
Subject:??????? FW: Committee on Ways and Means 
Importance:????????? High 

?<< File: Committee on Ways and Means.doc >> << File: HR 788 & 1045 Support 
Letter.doc >> << File: HR 1045 ISSA and Wilson Bill.pdf >> << File: HR 
778.pdf >> Please fax a support letter (draft letter attached) to the 
Members of the 
Ways and Means Committee as well as the authors, HR 778 Cunningham, and HR 
1045 Wilson and Issa.? These are important measures that 1) recognize CHP 
in 
buildings as an energy efficiency measure and create valuable tax 
incentives 
for DER among other things. There will hearings on these bills in Ways and 
Means on Tue and Wed June 12 and 13.? Please call if you have any 
questions. 

Steven A. Greenberg 

Sr. Energy Officer 
RealEnergy, Inc. 
300 Capitol Mall, Suite 120 
Sacramento, CA? 95814 

916-325-2500 
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