My initial take is to keep engaged through Perrino.  I'll try and make the call this Thursday.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Comnes, Alan 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 PM
To: Steffes, James D.; Alvarez, Ray; Perrino, Dave; Mara, Susan; Walton,
Steve
Subject: FW: Draft Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
Working g Group Meeting
Importance: High


Attached is a work plan for a 3-RTO working group (known as SSG-WI) to develop a market monitoring plan for CAISO, RTO West, and WestConnect.  It is turning into the (western) United Nations of Market Monitoring.  According to the attached plan, "This work plan is structured to first agree on the MME's authority and responsibilities, and then focus on the best structure to effectuate the agreement.  "  

We need to quickly decide our level of participation.  Dave participated in a meeting last week and it got them to not send out biased meeting notes. To actually steer the BPA-CAISO train into something we live with, however, will take a lot of work.  I suggest that we bring this up on our next "Western" call.  That being said, I will be on a plane on Thurs morning.  (Ray, could we have the Thursday call at 8:30/10:30/11:30 PST/CDT/EST??)

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Kristi M. Wallis [mailto:kristiwallis@sprintmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:59 PM
To: Greenleaf, Steve
Cc: 'Nabors, Ottie F - PMB-6'; Shea, Karen; Comnes, Alan; Sheffrin,
Anjali; Perrino, Dave; Dean Perry; 'Erin Boyd'; Bud Krogh; Cook,
Gregory; Hull, Gerit; 'lnichols@bpa.gov'; 'reinhold@primenet.com'
Subject: Re: Draft Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
Working g Group Meeting


Hi --

Here's the revised work plan that incorporates Steve's comments.  (I've added a meeting and moved forward some of our "resolution"
dates.  I've also inserted a meeting location rotation.)  I've attached both a red-line and clean version of the work plan.

I think this is ready to go, although everyone might want to take one last look (especially as it sets out an aggressive schedule).
Steve, I assume you'll take care of forwarding the meeting notes and the work plan to SSG-WI.  Let me know if there is anything else
I can do to help.

Thanks!  Kristi

"Greenleaf, Steve" wrote:

> Ollie and others,
>
> As shown in the attached, I have accepted your (ollie's) changes and just
> added the reference to FERC's "State-Federal Panels".  With that, I think
> we're good to go.  I'll wait and hear from Kristi on the work plan, then I
> think we can pass this info along to SSG-WI.  Sound reasonable?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nabors, Ottie F - PMB-6 [mailto:ofnabors@bpa.gov]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:03 PM
> To: 'Greenleaf, Steve'; 'Nabors, Ottie F - PMB-6'; Shea, Karen;
> kristiwallis@sprintmail.com
> Cc: Comnes, Alan; Sheffrin, Anjali; Perrino, David; Dean Perry; 'Erin
> Boyd'; Bud Krogh; Cook, Gregory; Hull, Gerit; 'lnichols@bpa.gov';
> 'reinhold@primenet.com'
> Subject: RE: Draft Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
> Workin g g Group Meeting
>
> Hi Steve;
>
> My suggestion would be to put in some words recognizing that FERC will be
> driving the train where state cooperation is concerned.  See my addition in
> the attached file.
>
> Ottie <<011112 stg SSG-WI MM Working Group Meeting Notes.doc>>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greenleaf, Steve [SMTP:SGreenleaf@caiso.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:53 AM
> > To:   'Nabors, Ottie F - PMB-6'; Shea, Karen; kristiwallis@sprintmail.com
> > Cc:   Comnes, Alan; Sheffrin, Anjali; Perrino, David; Dean Perry; 'Erin
> > Boyd'; Bud Krogh; Cook, Gregory; Hull, Gerit; 'lnichols@bpa.gov';
> > 'reinhold@primenet.com'
> > Subject:      RE: Draft Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
> > Workin g g Group Meeting
> >
> > Ottie,
> >
> > Are you suggesting that the latest version of the notes needs to be
> > updated?
> > If so, I would appreciate some suggested edits so that we can avoid
> > additional iterations.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nabors, Ottie F - PMB-6 [mailto:ofnabors@bpa.gov]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:46 AM
> > To: 'Greenleaf, Steve'; Shea, Karen; kristiwallis@sprintmail.com
> > Cc: Comnes, Alan; Sheffrin, Anjali; Perrino, David; Dean Perry; 'Erin
> > Boyd'; Bud Krogh; Cook, Gregory; Hull, Gerit; 'lnichols@bpa.gov';
> > 'Nabors, Ottie F - PMB-6'; 'reinhold@primenet.com'
> > Subject: RE: Draft Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
> > Workin g g Group Meeting
> >
> >
> > After looking at the latest version I have two observations to make given
> > the earlier e-mails.
> >
> > 1)  Concerning the state role, this will be defined within the framework
> > of
> > the current FERC process to address just this issue.  For our purposes I
> > am
> > not sure that the wording really state how open-ended this issue is for
> > the
> > RTO-MMUs or West-wide Monitor until some Federal/State ground rules are in
> > place.  I think we just need to state our flexibility and openness to work
> > with the states in areas where interests converge given the concerns Dave
> > Perrino raised.
> >
> > 2) As for the use of the term audit;  I too, am uncomfortable with its
> > use.
> > I believe that a more appropriate description of the role of the MMU in
> > evaluation of the RTOs is to describe the role as one of evaluating the
> > effectiveness of RTO rules, operations or behavior in promoting the
> > development of electricity markets.  In other words does the RTO ensure
> > fair
> > and open access to the transmission system?  Does it promote a robust and
> > transparent market for transmission? Does the operation of the RTO promote
> > robust and transparent energy markets by decreasing barriers to entry
> > (removing geographic and temporal constraints and arbitrage opportunities)
> > and barriers related to resource allocation transmission vs. generation
> > additions or demand side responses.  I guess what I just described is
> > something other then an 'audit' who's meaning is somewhat more legalistic,
> > fiduciary, or governance in nature.
> >
> > Ottie
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:       Greenleaf, Steve [SMTP:SGreenleaf@caiso.com]
> > > Sent:       Monday, November 12, 2001 10:27 PM
> > > To: Shea, Karen; kristiwallis@sprintmail.com
> > > Cc: Comnes, Alan; Sheffrin, Anjali; Perrino, David; Dean Perry; 'Erin
> > > Boyd'; Bud Krogh; Cook, Gregory; Hull, Gerit; 'lnichols@bpa.gov';
> > 'Nabors,
> > > Ottie F - PMB-6'; 'reinhold@primenet.com'
> > > Subject:    RE: Draft Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
> > > Workin g Group Meeting
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I have revised the meeting notes per Kristi's suggestions.  I have
> > removed
> > > the reference to "policing" as an MMU core function and identified it as
> > > an
> > > issue to be addressed.  Please review and I will distribute to SSG-WI.
> > > Thanks for your time and effort.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karen.Shea@dynegy.com [mailto:Karen.Shea@dynegy.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:39 PM
> > > To: kristiwallis@sprintmail.com
> > > Cc: Comnes, Alan; Sheffrin, Anjali; Perrino, David; Dean Perry; Johns,
> > > Debbie; 'Erin Boyd'; Bud Krogh; Cook, Gregory; Hull, Gerit;
> > > 'lnichols@bpa.gov'; 'Nabors, Ottie F - PMB-6'; 'reinhold@primenet.com';
> > > Greenleaf, Steve
> > > Subject: Re: Draft Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
> > > Working Group Meeting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve & Kristi-
> > >
> > > Steve, thanks very much for circulating a draft summary of  last week's
> > > meeting.  Also, I appreciate Kristi's clarification in her e-mail below.
> > >
> > > From Dynegy's perspective, we would oppose the MMU having police and
> > > enforcement power.  The MMU should monitor  the market and RTO according
> > > to
> > > carefully articulated criteria.  Enforcement should be by those with the
> > > appropriate authority (states, FERC, SEC, etc.).
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I was not on the call for the discussion of the role of
> > the
> > > States, but I would appreciate further discussion in this area.
> > >
> > > Also, was there any discussion of a Market Monitoring Committee?  The
> > idea
> > > would be to establish a Market Monitoring Committee consisting of
> > > representation by stakeholders from each Cooperating RTO.  The Committee
> > > would interface with the independent market monitor, provide input on
> > > appropriate data collection and screens, evaluate the need for
> > rule/tariff
> > > changes and review and provide comments on periodic reports.  (The
> > > Committee would have no authority to impose fines, penalties, etc.)
> > >
> > > Last week during our meeting I referred to the MISO independent market
> > > monitor model.  The FERC Order Providing Guidance on Continued
> > Processing
> > > of RTO Filings (issued Nov 7) points to the Midwest ISO, Alliance and
> > > Southwest Power Pool model as a single, regional market monitoring unit.
> > > The ideas in this proposal perhaps will be useful to our efforts here.
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for the opportunity to comment,
> > >
> > > Karen Shea
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >                     Kristi Wallis
> > >
> > >                     <kristiwallis@sprin        To:     "Greenleaf,
> > Steve"
> > > <SGreenleaf@caiso.com>
> > >                     tmail.com>                 cc:     "Sheffrin,
> > Anjali"
> > > <ASheffrin@caiso.com>, Dean Perry
> > >                                                <dean.perry@nwpp.org>,
> > > "Comnes, Alan" <alan.comnes@enron.com>, "'Nabors,
> > >                     11/12/01 12:56 PM          Ottie F - PMB-6'"
> > > <ofnabors@bpa.gov>, "'reinhold@primenet.com'"
> > >                     Please respond to          <reinhold@primenet.com>,
> > > "'Erin Boyd'" <eboyd@ppcpdx.org>, "Perrino,
> > >                     kristiwallis               David"
> > > <Dave.Perrino@enron.com>, "'lnichols@bpa.gov'" <lnichols@bpa.gov>,
> > >                                                "Hull, Gerit"
> > > <Gerit.Hull@PacifiCorp.com>, "Cook, Gregory"
> > >                                                <GCook@caiso.com>, "Shea,
> > > Karen" <karen.shea@dynegy.com>, Bud Krogh
> > >                                                <ekrogh@serv.net>,
> > "Johns,
> > > Debbie" <DJohns@caiso.com>
> > >                                                Subject:     Re: Draft
> > > Meeting Notes From 11/8 SSG-WI Market Monitoring
> > >                                                Working Group  Meeting
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve --
> > >
> > > Thanks for doing such a prompt, thorough, and great job on the notes!
> > > I've
> > > corrected some typos in the attached
> > > red-lined draft.  Also, as you'll see from my comments, I do not believe
> > > that we have yet agreed that the MME should have
> > > a policing/enforcement role (RTO West agrees at a minimum, that there
> > > needs
> > > to be tariff compliance function, but that
> > > could be done by an entity other than the MME; while RTO West is open to
> > > discussing a policing/enforcement role with
> > > respect to market power issues (and may well agree to it), we're not
> > there
> > > yet.)
> > >
> > > I have prepared and attach a straw dog work plan.  I look forward to
> > > everyone's comments!
> > >
> > > I am out of the office today, but will return tomorrow morning.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Kristi
> > >
> > > P.S.  These are the individuals that I know plan on attending the 11/16
> > > workshop -- Bud Krogh, Dean Perry, Eric Carter
> > > (BPA), Phil Carver (OR Office of Energy), Alan Comnes (Enron, plus one
> > > other Enron rep - Dave Perrino?), Peter Feldman
> > > (BC Hydro -- plus one other BC Hydro rep), Erin Boyd (PPC), Yong Cai
> > > (SMUD), Gerit Hull (PacifiCorp), Phil Muller
> > > (marketers), Lauren Nichols (BPA), Cindy Crane (PacifiCorp), Shep
> > Buchanan
> > > (BPA), Ottie Nabors (BPA), Peggy Olds (BPA),
> > > Kristi Wallis.  Also, I sent Debbie a head count for the Filing
> > Utilities
> > > early last week -- I assume that's still good.
> > >
> > > "Greenleaf, Steve" wrote:
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > Attached are my draft notes from yesterday's meeting.  Please send
> > > > edits/additions and I will finalize for distribution to SSG-WI.
> > > >
> > > >  <<011109 stg SSG-WI MM Working Group Meeting Notes.doc>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >                                                            Name:
> > 011109
> > > stg SSG-WI MM Working Group Meeting Notes.doc
> > > >    011109 stg SSG-WI MM Working Group Meeting Notes.doc    Type:
> > WINWORD
> > > File (application/msword)
> > > >                                                        Encoding:
> > base64
> > > (See attached file: 011109 stg SSG-WI MM Working Group Meeting Notes
> > (with
> > > KMW Edits).doc)(See attached file: Draft 11.09.01 Work Plan.doc)
> > >
> > >  << File: 011112 stg SSG-WI MM Working Group Meeting Notes.doc >>
>
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