Path: casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!udel!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!usenet From: Ivan Marinov Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.motss Subject: On Homophobia again Date: 23 Mar 1996 22:33:29 GMT Organization: IGN Lines: 61 Message-ID: <4j1u7p$1hng@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip139-92-18-134.pt.uk.ibm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: u.gp.cs.cmu.edu soc.culture.bulgaria:29151 soc.motss:367908 Reply to Roumyana: >Your claim that homosexuality is unnatural remains unsubstantiated since >you do not provide an independent way of determining naturalness. If it >were just a question of numbers, then the behavior of left-handers would be >quite unnatural. No, it's not a question of number. If at a certain place there would be thousands of homosexulas and only one heterosexual, heterosexuality would be still natural, and homosexuality would be unnatural. What's natural? Natural is that that conforms with the nature's laws. Homosexual relationships cannot produce any fruits, while heterosexual can - children. I think that even if this was the only prove (it's not), it would be enough to determine what is natural and what's not. I think that biology is enough idependent... >As I said earlier, even if you were granted the premise that homosexuality >is an illness, it still doesn't follow that homosexuals should be >discriminated against. There must be a discrimination, because most of the homosexuals don't want to realize that they are sick. Any healthy society must be capable to defend itself from persons who are trying to propagate their antisocial and wrong conduct as normal and harmless. >Religious groups in civilized countries enjoy equal rights without being >nationalities. Homosexuals are not a religious denomination! They can't claim to any rights as a minority, as they are not a minority. If they are considered a minority, then every living person on this planet can claim to the same privilege, and then we would have a lot of strange minorities here: a minority of killers, a minority of fat people, a minority of people with an 'a' in their first name, a minority of blue eyed people, and so on... Don't you realize that making homosexuals a minority is ridiculous? I think that there are real minorities only on base of nationality, ethnical origin, language and religion, and similar things, but no minorities can be claimed on base of wrong conduct, illness, abnormality, etc. Ivan --- Ivan Marinov - Maximilian Valenski --- int0108@ibm.net mvalenski@sf.cit.bg maxval@mbox.digsys.bg --- PK # 32, BG-1336 Sofija, Bulgaria --- The Book of Mormon - a testament of another Jesus. Who is that General Fault and why is he reading my drive? ---