Sketch negative, 2000/4/29, with 8" Dobsonian, 25mm eyepiece, 1 degree FOV. Observed from Greene county, Pittsburgh. M86 is in the middle, large, bright w. nucleus. M84 is at top, smaller, also bright w. nucleus. NGC4388 is at top right, elongated and dim. NGC4435 is the left one at bottom, small, bright, w. nucleus; NGC4438 the right one at bottom, more diffused.