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ACLU Learns of Third Secret Torture Memo by Gonzales

Wonderful. And I’m sure Mukasey will be right on that, as soon as he goes through confirmation by the full Senate.

How proud you must be of that vote, Chuck and Dianne.





52 Responses for “ACLU Learns of Third Secret Torture Memo by Gonzales”
1
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins Says:

Third memo? Shit, there are probably dozens more that would repulse even the most jaded observer.

I can’t wait to see what happens when those remaining Abu Graib photos get released to the public. The shiite is gonna hit the fan.

2
Frybread Says:

If the Dems have the guts to dig, it will take years to uncover all of the secret memos and backalley crap that the Chimp and his henchmen have hidden from the American public.

3
Bit NOLA Says:

Can we now start referring to Chuck and Diane as Blue Dogs?

Can we also start grooming and feeding netroot candidates to run against them the next time they run?

Both could easily be embarassed, possibly defeated, by clever and better competitors.

4
Don Davis Says:

Is this a new memo? Maybe ALBERTO IS STILL SHOWING UP FOR WORK, SINCE HE CAN’T RECALL RESIGNING.

5
conservatoire Says:

What has happened to this country? What has happened to our government? Why can’t this be stopped? I keep waiting for this other “big shoe” to drop that will somehow explain this twilight zone we are in, but I know that shoe doesn’t exist.

People! We must get out there and do something about this! We have reached a point where we need to take our country back from these fascists BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

I am only one person, but I know there are literally millions out there who agree. Where are the protests? Where is the march on Washington D.C.? Isn’t it time to storm the Bastille?

6
Kryptik Says:

Mukasey’s going to get right on that, no doubt.

Get right on emulating those memos and picking up where Gonzales started, that is.

7
jack foster Says:

This is what happens in a Monarchy. King George and his court of war criminals need to be brought before the world court in the Hague. To not do this, will be the biggest injustice of law in the last ten years. Mukasey will only be confirmed to protect Bush and company. Unbelievable how people of so-called honor and intergerity can sell their souls to the devil. History will judge them on their evil deeds.

8
Albatross Says:

conservatoire @ 5:

What has happened to this country? What has happened to our government? Why can’t this be stopped? I keep waiting for this other “big shoe” to drop that will somehow explain this twilight zone we are in, but I know that shoe doesn’t exist.

People! We must get out there and do something about this! We have reached a point where we need to take our country back from these fascists BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

I am only one person, but I know there are literally millions out there who agree. Where are the protests? Where is the march on Washington D.C.? Isn’t it time to storm the Bastille?

But dude! ‘Heroes’ is on tonight!

9
liberalNmoderation Says:

conservatoire @ 5:

What has happened to this country? What has happened to our government? Why can’t this be stopped? I keep waiting for this other “big shoe” to drop that will somehow explain this twilight zone we are in, but I know that shoe doesn’t exist.

People! We must get out there and do something about this! We have reached a point where we need to take our country back from these fascists BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

I am only one person, but I know there are literally millions out there who agree. Where are the protests? Where is the march on Washington D.C.? Isn’t it time to storm the Bastille?

You ain’t alone! It’s long overdue if you ask me…one thing that worries me…how can we organize against this fascist threat without being renditioned?

10
Kryptik Says:

Albatross @ 8:

conservatoire @ 5:

What has happened to this country? What has happened to our government? Why can’t this be stopped? I keep waiting for this other “big shoe” to drop that will somehow explain this twilight zone we are in, but I know that shoe doesn’t exist.

People! We must get out there and do something about this! We have reached a point where we need to take our country back from these fascists BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

I am only one person, but I know there are literally millions out there who agree. Where are the protests? Where is the march on Washington D.C.? Isn’t it time to storm the Bastille?

But dude! ‘Heroes’ is on tonight!

Not for too long with the strike though (if it actually manages to outlast the episodes already finished).

And I’m sure our wonderful Democratic Leadership is just gnawing at the bit to condemn these selfish writers for destroying the entertainment industry and taking away the livelyhood of producers…

11
liberalNmoderation Says:

jack foster @ 7:

This is what happens in a Monarchy. King George and his court of war criminals need to be brought before the world court in the Hague. To not do this, will be the biggest injustice of law in the last ten years. Mukasey will only be confirmed to protect Bush and company. Unbelievable how people of so-called honor and intergerity can sell their souls to the devil. History will judge them on their evil deeds.

Yeah, and in the meantime this country, and the rest of world suffers? We don’t have the luxury of waiting for history to judge them harshly! We MUST march on DC!

12
lucid fiction Says:

“THEY” will tighten down the clamps via Police State / Tyranny
before going down. It is obvious that the people who are elected
are out of control rober barons and thugs. It’s going to get much
uglier before it gets any better.

13
Kryptik Says:

liberalNmoderation @ 11:

jack foster @ 7:

This is what happens in a Monarchy. King George and his court of war criminals need to be brought before the world court in the Hague. To not do this, will be the biggest injustice of law in the last ten years. Mukasey will only be confirmed to protect Bush and company. Unbelievable how people of so-called honor and intergerity can sell their souls to the devil. History will judge them on their evil deeds.

Yeah, and in the meantime this country, and the rest of world suffers? We don’t have the luxury of waiting for history to judge them harshly! We MUST march on DC!

And no doubt, our wonderful sages in Washington D.C. will look at the marches, and wonder ‘God, this is the rabble we’re supposed to represent! What monsters, we can’t let them have their way!’, all encouraged by our noble Dean Broder, sagely Mr. David Brooks, and the oh-so-bright David Ignatius, amongst other great minds.

14
SadButTrue Says:

Indictment! Indictment! Indictment!

C’mon, people, chant along -you all know the lyrics by now:

Indictment! Indictment! Indictment!
Indictment! Indictment! Indictment!

INDICTMENT! INDICTMENT! INDICTMENT!!!

15
Jack Damage Says:

Just as it was between Michael and Fredo at the end…
DiFi is dead to me……………..JD

16
navyswan Says:

Our entire government and a large percentage of the citizenry seems to be fine with our country committing crimes against humanity. I am sick. Just sick of the fact that most people could care less that we are and have been torturing people. Now I know how the nazis were able to get away with what they did.

17
Terrible Says:

navyswan @ 16:

Our entire government and a large percentage of the citizenry seems to be fine with our country committing crimes against humanity. I am sick. Just sick of the fact that most people could care less that we are and have been torturing people. Now I know how the nazis were able to get away with what they did.

I’ve been thinking that for a while now too.

18
Che’s Lounge Says:

Special Prosecutor. Shut down the whole DC clown act until one is appointed. But that senile old bitch just voted with the fascists. Thanks Senator. You’re under arrest too. Man, how I despise these people. Fucking traitors all.

19
getalife Says:

A little diddy about Chuck and Diane.

Two American kids, doing the worst they can.

Geez.

20
Samson- Says:

maybe this will be another momentous, political earthquake, media-salivating, meme-altering memo like the downing street memo???

/sarcasm off

sorry, but short of alien intervention i fail to see any memo, any finding, any testimony that will wake the dems the fuck up. this will just be another memo that drives consitution-faithful americans crazy. while the GOP is silent and the dems try to triangulate their response to help their party, not america.

we have a failed govt. period.

21
Ellie Says:

Apparently nothing will make Dem leadership behave like a party with a pulse than (a) a call to trash their own voters and (b) any opportunity to cover the Bush admin’s corrupt fat ass. They “lost” — or let an election be lost — that had turnout for them in record numbers. How they can expect to do well in ‘08 with this weak-ass shit is beyond my comprehension (or concern, frankly.)

22
Clavis Says:

It is obvious by now that most of the Democrats in Congress have been compromised. They all have interests — their state’s interests, their re-election interests — that Republican power-structures can exploit and threaten.

The Republicans put party before country. The Democrats put political self-interest before country. The media puts profits before country.

We’re screwed.

23
liberalNmoderation Says:

Ellie @ 21:

Apparently nothing will make Dem leadership behave like a party with a pulse than (a) a call to trash their own voters and (b) any opportunity to cover the Bush admin’s corrupt fat ass. They “lost” — or let an election be lost — that had turnout for them in record numbers. How they can expect to do well in ‘08 with this weak-ass shit is beyond my comprehension (or concern, frankly.)

It seems we are left with but one option…open revolt against this tyrannical and corrupt govt. We had better do it soon before martial law is declared…course BushCo might just use the revolution against him to declare martial law…DAMMIT!!! What the fuck can we do!!!??? Ideas? Anybody?

24
Dhalgren Says:

New York needs a Sheldon Whitehouse-type guy to kick Schumer out in 2010.

Sheldon voted against Mukasey, right?

Sho’ did.

25
ysbaddaden Says:

Would Gonzo, Difi and Mukasey call this torture?

http://brasov.free.fr/images/drac4.jpg

26
Max-1 Says:

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Is torture EVER an Amerian Principle?

.

27
SCHRODINGER”S CAT Says:

‘Samson @ # 20 ‘

” we have a failed govt. period.”

I would say it’s a dysfunctioanal govt. but maybe you are right.

Clavis @ # 22′

” we’re screwed”

You may be right.
The US federal debt iis $ 9 trillion, the US dollar is dropping like a rock , China is considering converting its US dollar to the Euro or other currencies and Bush and Co . are engeged in a war ( with no end in sight ) that will make things worse.

28
Bush the Liar Says:

I sure this democratic congress will now pass a law specifically outlawing waterboarding. But it will of course include amnesty for all previous torture done.

Pathetic.

29
jr Says:

“you’re the real deal”-Joe Biden to Gonzo at his confirmation

30
ysbaddaden Says:

26 Max-1 Says: .

Is torture EVER an Amerian Principle?
____________________________________________

You’ve never been paddled by the school principal?

31
navyswan Says:

Bush the Liar @ 28:

I sure this democratic congress will now pass a law specifically outlawing waterboarding. But it will of course include amnesty for all previous torture done.

Pathetic.

It is already against the law in this country. There is no need to write a law making it illegal because it already is.

32
ysbaddaden Says:

Stanley Milgram was right!

Too bad he’s too dead to care.

33
navyswan Says:

SCHRODINGER”S CAT @ 27:

‘Samson @ # 20 ‘

” we have a failed govt. period.”

I would say it’s a dysfunctioanal govt. but maybe you are right.

Clavis @ # 22′

” we’re screwed”

You may be right.
The US federal debt iis $ 9 trillion, the US dollar is dropping like a rock , China is considering converting its US dollar to the Euro or other currencies and Bush and Co . are engeged in a war ( with no end in sight ) that will make things worse.

I would definitely say failed government at this point. All checks and balances of the constitution have failed, the opposition party has failed.

34
JerryM Says:

Won’t make a blind bit of difference though, he could stand up and say “Sure I did it, and what are you going to do ?” and no one would life a finger.

35
ysbaddaden Says:

26 Max-1 Says: .

Is torture EVER an Amerian Principle?

___________________________________________

Is Amerian some bit of medieval tail that hangs out in parks with fey English guys in green tights?

36
Ellie Says:

No. 23:

I’m honestly baffled. The Dem response to voters who have done everything that an engaged voter and activist is supposed to do is to use that momentum to do LESS instead of more. They’re like a beached whale that’s stinking up the beach and pressing a perfumed bath sheet to counteract its own offended sense of smell.

37
Pauo Says:

Seems to me that Gonzo should be facing prison time for his part in orchestrating crimes against humanity. That whole bush crew should thanks it’s lucky stars that I’m not going to be the next president. Treaty or not, they would all be renditioned to the Hague. A taste of their own medicine.

38
Liberal AND Proud Says:

Does the memo say…”Jack would do it.”?

Or is that the forthcoming fourth memo?

39
johnx Says:

Diane and Chuck are on the hook. They cannot pretend they didn’t condone the torture.

40
Liberal AND Proud Says:

navyswan @ 33:

SCHRODINGER”S CAT @ 27:

‘Samson @ # 20 ‘

” we have a failed govt. period.”

I would say it’s a dysfunctioanal govt. but maybe you are right.

Clavis @ # 22′

” we’re screwed”

You may be right.
The US federal debt iis $ 9 trillion, the US dollar is dropping like a rock , China is considering converting its US dollar to the Euro or other currencies and Bush and Co . are engeged in a war ( with no end in sight ) that will make things worse.

I would definitely say failed government at this point. All checks and balances of the constitution have failed, the opposition party has failed.

The surge is WORKING! MidEast disarray…neocon mission accomplished. Destruction of the social programs…mission accomplished. Elimination of the middle class…mission accomplished. No taxes for the rich…mission accomplished.

Need I go on.

Dysfunctional government? I think not. The politicians are doing EXACTLY what their masters have wanted.

41
ysbaddaden Says:

38 Liberal AND Proud Says: Does the memo say…”Jack would do it.”?

Or is that the forthcoming fourth memo?
__________________________________________________________

Is he the one who eats no fat?

42
miss_kitty Says:

ACLU Learns of Third Secret Torture Memo by Gonzales

This is why, on my meager income, I manage to eke out a yearly membership only for the ACLU.

Thanks ACLU, for giving me my $35.00 worth and a nifty card. :)

43
Angry One Says:

The devastating New York Times expose of the Bush administration’s secret endorsement of torture by the CIA only served to confirm the worst what most Americans already suspected. First, Alberto Gonzales lied to Congress regarding the administration’s policy on torture of detainees during his 2005 confirmation hearings. Second, President Bush’s December 2005 signing statement accompanying the Detainee Treatment Act was expressly designed to exempt the lawbreaking he had already approved.

For the details, see:
“Bush Signing Statement, Gonzales Perjury Concealed Torture Policy.”

44
SCHRODINGER”S CAT Says:

‘ Liberal and Proud @ # 40′

‘dysfunctional govt. vs. failed govt.’

Yesterday I was reading the resumes of at least some of the 100 Senators .
I did not get the feeling that they were a bunch of irresponsible pirates
out to royally screw the American tax payers. I get what you are trying to say however.

“mission accomplished”

Maybe so if you have been able to shuffle off your assets to an off shore bank account in the Cayman Islands in the last six year.

If not ,you are ‘ screwed’.

By the way I do not have any off shore bank accounts or bank accounts in Switzerland. Maybe I am screwed also.

miss_kitty @ 42:

ACLU Learns of Third Secret Torture Memo by Gonzales

This is why, on my meager income, I manage to eke out a yearly membership only for the ACLU.

Thanks ACLU, for giving me my $35.00 worth and a nifty card. :)

I’m with you, Miss Kitty, though I’m always disappointed when they don’t spend more time trying to destroy Christmas.

46
ysbaddaden Says:

42 miss_kitty Says: ACLU Learns of Third Secret Torture Memo by Gonzales

This is why, on my meager income, I manage to eke out a yearly membership only for the ACLU.

Thanks ACLU, for giving me my $35.00 worth and a nifty card.
____________________________________________________________

No Ovaltine, Little Orphan Annie, Decoder ring?

47
johnpatriot Says:

The big D.from San Francisco is queen of the fascists. Anything to get more money, and take away more of our freedoms is fine.
I’m wondering, has Dianne heard of Marie Antoinette. Every one of these cowardly democrats who voted for this clown should
be run out of office asap. They got the guns, but we got the numbers. So, get out your poison pens, and eradicate the need to
deal with these swine anymore. I will vote for Condi before I vote for Feinstein. What a slimeball she is.

48
earl Says:

The big D.from San Francisco’s hubby is making a killing in the War biz.

49
earl Says:

Two teams, two different uniforms, but they are on the same field …they are playing the same game, folks….

50
Lynnianaa Says:

4 Don Davis Says:
Is this a new memo? Maybe ALBERTO IS STILL SHOWING UP FOR WORK, SINCE HE CAN’T RECALL RESIGNING.

Lulz, good one.

51
QuakerDave Says:

Little ditty
‘Bout Chuck and Di-ann-anne,
Two Senators kissin’ Dubya’s butt
As hard as they can…

52
LCD Says:

Filed under “torture” ?
More specifically, file under “United States torture”

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