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I've noticed that some of you come here looking for Pittsburgh transit bus schedules, for which I recommend bus.maya.com.

Important!

Due to recent service cuts, much of the information on this page is obsolete.

Amtrak: PGH (Penn Station) - PHL (30th Street Station)

Eastbound to PHL schedule

                   PGH    PHL   Train      Notes

MoTuWeThFrSaSu   10:00a  5:45p   #40       7h45; often very late

NOTE: All trains run through to Penn Station New York (NYP).

Westbound to PGH schedule

                   PHL    PGH   Train      Notes

MoTuWeThFrSaSu    3:00p 10:09p   #41       7h09; Originates at NYP  

General information

I keep a (mostly complete) record of train tardiness, from which the following is clear: eastbound, never take #40; as of late August it has been fairly consistently 1-2 hours late (or worse), partly due to delays between Chicago and Pittsburgh. #42/#44 (the eastbound Pennsylvanian) is almost always on time leaving PGH, and usually moderately late (30 minutes or less) into PHL.

Westbound, both #43/#45 and #41 are very rarely more than an hour late, and often arrive early (the westbound schedule is padded between Greensburg and Pittsburgh, allowing even delayed trains to be "on time" at PGH). Recently, #41 has been doing better than #43/#45, but it's scheduled to take 7h40 rather than 7h15/7h30 so this isn't surprising.

Train facilities on #42/#43/#44/#45

These trains have several unreserved coaches, terminated by a single car with mystery seating / "cafe" / business class seating. (I call it mystery seating because it's used variously for the crew to rest and (apparently) random passengers to sit.) The business class seats are "1-2" with large, rather uncomfortable headrests; the 2 side has dividers between the seats.

Regular coach seating on the Pennsy varies widely. There may be "high-density" (i.e. no legroom) coaches with orange or red seats. There may be low-density coaches with green seats and (IIRC) no curtains. There may be low-density coaches with blue seats and curtains (sometimes with TVs in the overhead storage, but thankfully these appear to serve no purpose). Blue coaches are indistinguishable from Northeast Corridor business class.

The take-home -- rather, take-to-the-train -- message is to prefer green or blue and avoid red. When boarding at PHL, you will have to walk along most of the train (unless you're in the business class car at the end) -- take notice of the seat color, since in most cases you will be allowed to sit anywhere (except in the last car, of course). I haven't noticed any perceptible "no one goes there anymore, it's too crowded" effect -- even when the boarding door is right between a red coach and a blue coach, most people have no idea that there's a difference; it's not totally obvious, when you're in the vestibule, that the seats in the red car are much closer together. So you really should try to go for blue/green.

The question arises of why anyone would pay the extra $18.00 each way for a business class seat that is no more comfortable than blue/green coach. In fact, in mid-week when there are fewer people, you can almost always get two blue/green seats to yourself, and since there are no seat dividers you can stretch out diagonally. Apart from the inconsequential (to me) free bad newspaper and free beverage, the essential reason to ride business class is simply that the average disturbance level is lower, despite the noise and smell of the cafe; you're much less likely to get obnoxious people in close proximity. On the other hand, if there aren't many passengers, you may be able to have 3 or 4 entire rows of seats to yourself in unreserved blue/green coach, which is more pleasant than business class under any circumstances. In short, if you're traveling at a busy time, can afford to drop $18 each way, or are just so stressed out by your life that you wouldn't be able to handle having some whiny child (or someone who acts like one) right behind you, business class is the lesser evil; otherwise, save your money and buy coach.

Besides, with unreserved coach you're not committed to a particular date of travel.

As of recently, smoking is completely banned on #42/#43/#44/#45. However, expect some reeking people around Harrisburg, the only designated smoking stop.

Train facilities on #40/#41

The all-reserved Three Rivers has Viewliner sleeping cars, a sit-down diner/lounge, and reserved coaches -- red, green (not sure I've seen green on #40/#41, actually), or blue. Unfortunately, they often assign seats on these trains, so you may not be able to avoid red.

In early 2003 Amtrak began serving full dinner (as opposed to the usual sandwich/junk food/beverage service, which they still have, of course) on #41. I haven't ridden #40 recently, so I have no idea if they've started doing the same on that train. On both occasions in my experience, dinner was something involving chicken and pasta, and cost $9. I did not partake, so I cannot provide additional information. Of course, if you spring for a sleeper, dinner is free.

As with #42/#43/#44/#45, smoking is now banned on #40/#41, a nice change from the "designated smoking times" in the lounge car. People will smoke on the platform at Harrisburg, though.

Amtrak discounts

  H305   1 passenger:    25% off adult fare

Transit connections at PGH: EBA: rapid service to Shadyside, 100: rapid service to Oakland, 61A B C, also 71ACD, 67ACEFJ, local service to Oakland, etc.; subway (use Steel Plaza station). With the Port Authority's odious service cuts, the 71A is now the bus of last resort on Sunday nights:

  • the last 61Cs depart Forbes & Stanwix at 12:00am and 12:36am;
  • the last EBAs leave Penn Station at 12:03am and 12:20am, connecting near Negley Station with the 12:26 or (if unlucky) 1:06 64As;
  • the last 71As leave Forbes & Stanwix at 1:00am, 1:45am, and 2:30am.
  • After 2:30am, the next bus is the 61C at 4:46am.

    (ObPATSucks: PAT Sucks!)

    Transit connections at PHL to Center City: In station, ride Regional Rail trains as shown on the TV marked "Next Trains to Center City"; free with Amtrak ticket or ticket receipt (not that it matters; conductors never collect fares between 30th Street and Center City). Alternatively, follow signs and cross intersection to trolley/subway station; subway (Market-Frankford Line) runs until shortly after midnight (then bustituted), Subway-Surface Trolleys run 24 hours a day. Purchase tokens in subway station ($2.60 for 2 tokens). The cash fare (sucker fare) is $2.00; avoid it. You should check SEPTA's website to see if any detours, bustitutions, or other evil influences are in effect.

    If you are trying to get to 30th Street Station on a weekend, the most reliably fast trip is by trolley or MFL. Even when construction is over, you don't want to take Regional Rail unless you've checked the schedules first, since there are gaps of 30 minutes or more.

     

    US Airways: PIT - PHL Schedule

    From the PDF timetable effective September 8, 2002. (See the USAir downloadable timetable page.)

    (Yeah, I don't update this often. The main reason is that I've been taking Amtrak instead. Another reason is that it seems like every time I turn around, USAir has cut service.)

    Eastbound to PHL

    CMU     PIT    PHL   Flt#  Days      Notes
    
    ----    6:00a  7:08a ----  mtwrfsu  ** NO 28X CONNECTION **
    
    5:00a   5:47a              mtwrfsu
            6:30a  7:39a 1880  mtwrf    ** 47-min 28X CONNECTION **  Eff 09/09/02-10/04/02
    
    5:20a   6:07a              mtwrf
    5:30a   6:17a                   su
    5:40a   6:29a              mtwrf
    6:00a   6:49a              mtwrfsu
            7:45a  9:04a   78  mtwrfsu  Dis After 10/04/02
    
    #28X from 9:00a to 7:00p: Every 20 minutes
    # 28X @ CMU :00, :20, :40  mtwrfsu
    # 55-63 minutes
    
            9:05a 10:15a 1084  mtwrf u  Dis After 10/04/02
            9:05a 10:15a 1071       s   Eff 09/14/02
           11:30a 12:48p 1161       su 
           11:30a 12:48p  246  mtwrf    Eff 09/09/02-10/04/02
            1:30p  2:41p  546  mtwrfsu
    
            2:10p  3:22p  130, mtwrfsu
             :10p   :22p 1088,  .  .  
            2:10p  3:22p  674.  .  .  
    
            3:55p  5:18p   88  mtwrfsu
            4:35p  5:48p  786  mtwrfsu
            5:45p  7:05p 1119  mtwrfsu
            9:05p 10:19p  240  mtwrfsu
    
    ** Following flight deprecated due to poor R1 connection **
    8:30p   9:17p                   su
    8:40p   9:28p              mtwrf
    9:00p   9:48p              mtwrfsu
           10:45p 11:57p  854  mtwrfsu  Last R1-Airport @ 12:09a!
    
    R1-Airport    12:09a  R1   mtwrfsu
    SEPTA bus     12:26a  #37  mtwrf    arr Broad & Snyder 12:52a;
                                         BSL owls @ 12:54a,  1:09a
    SEPTA bus      1:41a  #37  mtwrf    arr Broad & Snyder  2:07a;
                                         BSL owls @ 2:10a,  2:25a
    SEPTA bus     12:20a  #37       su* arr Broad & Snyder 12:48;
                                         BSL owls @ 12:54a,  1:09a
    SEPTA bus      1:14a  #37       su* arr Broad & Snyder  1:42a;
                                         BSL owls @  1:55a, 2:10a
    Deprecated (use #37 & BSL):
    SEPTA bus     12:28a #305  mtwrf    arr Darby Loop 12:53a;
                                          #11 trolley @ 1:05a
    SEPTA bus     12:30a #108  mtwrf    arr 69th St  1:10a;
                                         MFL owls @  1:17a,  1:32a  +23
    SEPTA bus      1:25a #108  mtwrf    arr 69th St  2:05a;
                                         MFL owls @  2:17a,  2:32a
    
    * Sunday #37's run 1-2 mins later than shown.
    NOTE: Should determine the scuzz level of Broad & Snyder.

    Westbound to PIT

     PHL    PIT   Flt#  Days     Notes
    
     6:00a  7:06a  241  mtwrfs   Eff 09/09/02; R1* 4:30a - 4:53a
     7:05a  8:16a  433  mtwrfsu  R1* 5:30a - 5:53a
     9:30a 10:40a  607  mtwrfsu  R1* 7:30a (or 8:00a) - 7:53a (or 8:23a)
    12:20p  1:28p  536  mtwrfsu
     3:40p  4:53p 1419  mtwrfsu
     4:15p  5:29p  967  mtwrf u  Dis After 10/04/02
     5:35p  6:49p  873  mtwrfsu
     6:50p  8:08p 1169  mtwrfsu
     8:00p  9:25p  949  mtwrfsu
    10:00p 11:13p 1487  mtwrfsu  R1* 8:30p - 8:53p
      
       28X 11:23p       mtwrf
       28X 11:13p            su
       28X 12:08a       mtwrfsu
    
    * R1 times for Center City ("Suburban Station") - Airport Terminal E
    NOTE: see also MFL and #108 schedules
    Transit connections at PIT: 28X-Airport Flyer to Downtown (where one can transfer) and Oakland (CMU); $2.00-$2.75
    [First 28X arrives airport 5:47a;
    Last 28X leaves airport 12:08a]

    Transit connections at PHL: Regional Rail: R1-Airport to University City / 30th St Station / Center City: MTWRF, Sat, Sun; $5.50
    [First R1 train arrives airport ~4:52a;
    Last R1 train leaves terminals ~12:09a]

    Note that the R1-Airport is likely to be cut. I haven't heard anything about replacement bus service (having taken the Rail Power Project shuttle bus, that wouldn't be such a terrible thing, especially since it might cost less than $5.50), so we may end up stuck with having to take a bus and transfer to BSL, MFL, or trolley.


    Further Afield

    Trenton-Mercer Airport (TTN)

    Near Upper Ferry Rd & Grand Ave, Ewing, NJ

    As of January 2003, US Airways flies between TTN and PIT (formerly the only flights out of TTN were to Bedford, MA). See the US Airways timetable for details.

    Transit access to the airport, which is west of Trenton in West Trenton/Ewing, seems to be limited. The official airport page mentions only taxi service (fare "approximately $12.00") between TTN and the Trenton train station. Well, fine, if you don't mind the cab you can take the SEPTA R7 (or Amtrak if you like wasting money) to Philly, but cabs are abominable.

    NJ Transit has at least one bus, the 607, that goes by the airport. While the official airport freaks "naturally" assume everyone will either take a cab or drive via the I-95 hellway, I infer from the parking page (parking is free, but of course taxis and buses are not, because we need to massively subsidize the most wasteful form of transportation) that there is an entrance on Bear Tavern Rd, which -- unless it is some kind of sickening zero-clearance six-lane hellway -- should be accessible. (Has anyone looked into a class-action ADA suit against (almost) every jurisdiction in the US, for building non-pedestrian- (hence non-wheelchair-) accessible facilities?)

    The 607 is infrequent (30-60 minutes weekdays, 90 minutes weekends).

    Newark International (EWR)

    Say it out loud! Say it with feeling! EWR, EWR, eeeewwwwwwwRRRR!

    I mention this for the sake of completeness. PIT-EWR seems to usually be more expensive than PIT-PHL. However, if you want to go to Philadelphia via EWR, it is quite straightforward to take the EWR Airtrain, the NJ Transit NEC Line and the SEPTA R7. Amtrak is a faster, but much more expensive, substitute for the NJT NEC and R7 (also, only some Amtrak trains stop at EWR; if you wanted to compromise and only waste a fair bit of money, you could take NJT to Trenton and Amtrak from there).


    Joshua Dunfield
    Last modified: Tue Dec 28 17:21:30 EST 2004