Wang, Y., and Li, J.-C. (1997) Inelastic neutron scattering techniques and its application to IE water. In S.-Y. Lo and B. Bonavida (eds.), Proceedings of the First International Symposium on Physical, Chemical and Biological Properties of Stable Water (IE) Clusters, pp. 81-90. Singapore: World Scientific Publishing.We summarize the Wang and Li results here:
Christian Burnham, a graduate student in Li's lab, maintains the UMIST Ice Physics home page. Burnham, who was not personally involved in the IE water experiments but is familiar with the research, added a link on the page that said "Is Ie (structured) water genuine? Information on Dr. ShuiYin Lo and American Technologies group." The link pointed to the Affidavit of Andrew Blackwood at the Oregon Department of Justice.
Burnham also added a second link from the UMIST Ice Physics page to this web site, www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/ATG. Less than 24 hours later, ATG pressured Dr. Li to force the removal of this link from Burnham's page. The following email exchange then occurred with the UMIST group:
From: Christian James Burnham <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: Mark Dallara <email@example.com> Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 1:46 PM Subject: Ie water crystals Dear Mark I am removing all links from my web page re: Ie water. We are sympathetic to your cause, but we don't want to become involved in this matter any further. The differences we saw in Raman scattering could well be due to impurities in the sample and should not be taken as support for Ie water. Could you please remove any links to our page and any mention of UMIST or our group. Thanks for your help Christian Burnham
From: Dave_Touretzky@cs.cmu.edu To: Christian James Burnham <firstname.lastname@example.org> cc: Ji-Chen Lee <email@example.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:33:01 -0400 Subject: ATG web site Dear Christian, Mark Dallara forwarded to me your request that all mention of UMIST be removed from my ATG web site. I'm sorry that I cannot comply with your request. I'm also sorry to see that you have had to remove your link from the UMIST ice physics page to my ATG site. As you know, my web site is dedicated to documenting the story of ATG's extraordinary scientific claims and the company's relationship with the academic community. UMIST is part of that story. However, I would like to extend to Professor Li and anyone else in his lab the right to reply to whatever I write on my web site. I do not wish to misrepresent the work of the UMIST group or give a false impression of the events that transpired. I am doing my best to uncover the truth regarding ATG, and publicize that truth, because I think it's an important story. There is also the matter of naive investors who may purchase stock in ATG, or become distributors of products based on IE crystals, because of the company's misrepresentations about its research. As responsible scientists, we have a duty to speak out and warn the public when we see such activity. I would welcome Professor Li's assistance with this. Best wishes, Dr. David S. Touretzky
What lessons can be drawn from this affair? We find no fault either with Wang and Li's research or their presentation of it. The paper is perfectly clear. Nor can we criticize Li for not wishing to become involved in a public dispute with ATG. We do not know exactly what leverage ATG used to force removal of a link from the UMIST ice physics home page, but we have seen other cases where ATG resorted to legal threats in an attempt to silence critical speech.
ATG's actions in this case speak volumes about the company.
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