Why IE Crystals Are Probably a Scam
- Rougly a dozen phases of water have been discovered at extreme
temperatures and/or pressures. There is a huge literature on the
physics of ice and water, including extensive studies of clathrates
(ions "caged" in by water molecules, as supposedly occurs with Ie
crystal formation.) No one has reported ice stable at room
temperatures, as Dr. Lo is claiming.
- Therefore, if IE crystals were legitimate, they would be MAJOR
NEWS. We're talking the cover of Science, front page of the New York
Times, interviews on CNN, and a possible Nobel Prize nomination for
Dr. Lo. Therefore, Dr. Lo can be expected to take reasonable steps to
bring this about, e.g., by seeking replication and confirmation of his
- So where are the replications? None are reported in Dr. Lo's
papers or the ATG web site. The scientists whom ATG has apparently
contracted to do studies of IE crystals appear to have been supplied
with samples from ATG. (And who knows what's really in those samples?)
- Dr. Lo's paper in Modern Physics Letters gives the following
recipe for creating IE crystals: start with water, add salt (NaCl).
Then, shake, dilute with more water, repeat many times. The paper
states that crystal formation can be significantly enhanced by adding
"a dielectric material with high boiling point" of around 350 degrees
C. But the material is not named, and the quantity used is not given.
Where is the full disclosure normally required in scientific work?
Does this look like someone eager to have others replicate his
- IE crystals could be just a mistake, not a deliberate scam.
But mistakes are quickly rectified in science through attempts at
replication in other labs. ATG is busy hyping the properties of IE
crystals, collecting big money from sales of fraudulent laundry balls,
an automotive combustion enhancer, and soon a line of homeopathic
health products. Funny how they can't be bothered to obtain proper
confirmation of their results. What's a Nobel prize worth these days,
- In October 1997, a lab in Pennsylvania said that a sample from
ATG of water allegedly containing IE crystals was indistinguishable
from tap water. As a result, ATG ended up paying $20,000 to the
Oregon Attorney General to settle charges of consumer fraud. As of
April 1998, ATG has still not contacted this Pennsylvania lab,
Structure Probe, Inc., to discuss their results or try to convince
them that Ie crystals are indeed legitimate. Does this sound like a
company convinced that "our science is real" and determined to defend
it "in every legal venue" (quotes from Harold Rapp's threatening
letter to Mark Dallara)? Or does it sound more like a bunch of con
artists slinking away, relieved to have only lost $20,000 when they're
raking in millions?
Last modified: Fri Sep 4 17:21:20 EDT 1998