Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Wed, 31 Oct 90 23:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 31 Oct 90 23:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from vma.cc.cmu.edu by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Wed, 31 Oct 90 23:18:20 EST Received: from VMA.CC.CMU.EDU by vma.cc.cmu.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 9827; Wed, 31 Oct 90 23:16:27 EST Received: from TWNMOE10.edu.tw by VMA.CC.CMU.EDU (Mailer R2.04) with BSMTP id 9826; Wed, 31 Oct 90 23:16:26 EST Received: from twnitri1.bitnet (MAILER) by TWNMOE10.edu.tw (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 3022; Thu, 01 Nov 90 09:51:15 EST Date: Thu, 1 Nov 90 09:48:26 CST From: kw20swk0%TWNITRI1.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu (Wai-kong, Sung) Message-Id: <901101094826.28b0@ersob.itri.org.tw> Subject: Can ezprint print raster files? To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu%TWNITRI1.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu X-St-Vmsmail-To: ST%"info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu" Hi! Do anyone know how to print out a raster file through ezprint? For those text files, I use ezprint -t to convert them into troff files and use ptroff to print them out through a PostScript printer; it is a NeXT printer here. Wai-kong Sung Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 03:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 03:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from vma.cc.cmu.edu by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 1 Nov 90 03:13:30 EST Received: from VMA.CC.CMU.EDU by vma.cc.cmu.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 0928; Thu, 01 Nov 90 03:11:36 EST Received: from TWNMOE10.edu.tw by VMA.CC.CMU.EDU (Mailer R2.04) with BSMTP id 0927; Thu, 01 Nov 90 03:11:35 EST Received: from twnitri1.bitnet (MAILER) by TWNMOE10.edu.tw (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6549; Thu, 01 Nov 90 16:10:42 EST Date: Thu, 1 Nov 90 16:11:59 CST From: kw20swk0%TWNITRI1.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu (Wai-kong, Sung) Message-Id: <901101161159.28b0@ersob.itri.org.tw> Subject: Can AMS run without AMDS? To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu%TWNITRI1.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu X-St-Vmsmail-To: ST%"info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu" Can we run AMS without AMDS? Now I try to use standard BSD mail instead of AMDS. We can send mail through the sendmessages but we can't read new mails from the messages or cui. I tried to change something in the AndrewSetup file or preferences files, such as MailboxDir and MailboxFile, but all in vain. Could anyone tell me how to fix it? In fact, I 've tried to install AMDS and WP but resulted errors. It is about lack of some include files, such as bt.h or something ( I can't really remember). The point is, is it possible to install AMDS and WP without AFS? Wai-kong, Sung CCL/ITRI Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 09:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 09:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Thu, 1 Nov 90 09:33:19 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA29907; Thu, 1 Nov 90 09:33:09 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id AA17441; Thu, 1 Nov 90 09:35:05 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 09:35:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 1990 09:35:02 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein To: kw20swk0@TWNITRI1.BITNET (Wai-kong, Sung), info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Can AMS run without AMDS? In-Reply-To: <901101161159.28b0@ersob.itri.org.tw> References: <901101161159.28b0@ersob.itri.org.tw> It should work just fine if configured properly; actually, most people who run AMS do NOT use AMDS. Try just running cui and typing the command "update" to read your new mail. If it doesn't work, please tell me exactly what it prints out as an error message. If it says something about "set hold in .mailrc" then you need to create a .mailrc file in your home directory and put the following line in it: unset hold There's a long story behind this, but if it is your problem, basically it is necessary because of the way your site has configured Berkeley mail. Anyway, let me know what CUI says and we can diagnose the problem from there. -- Nathaniel Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 10:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 10:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from IBM.COM by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 1 Nov 90 10:04:13 EST Received: from RCHLAND by IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 7021; Thu, 01 Nov 90 07:03:48 PST Reply-To: Bob Oesterlin Received: by po1.rchland.ibm.com (5.51/4.7) id for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Thu, 1 Nov 90 08:50:55 CST Received: via switchmail; Thu, 1 Nov 90 08:50:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from locutus.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 08:50:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from locutus.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 08:50:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.locutus.rchland.ibm.com.rs.ai x31 via MS.5.6.locutus.rchland.ibm.com.rs_aix31; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 08:50:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 1990 08:50:37 -0600 (CST) From: Bob Oesterlin X-Andrew-Message-Size: 3050+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: "old hidden messages" Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 14:32:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 14:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.att.com (ATT-IN.ATT.COM) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Thu, 1 Nov 90 14:26:22 EST Received: from mtgz046 by mtgzfs3.att.com (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA19341; Thu, 1 Nov 90 13:41:27 EST Received: by mtgz046 (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA02788; Thu, 1 Nov 90 13:41:25 EST Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.mtgz046.gazelle.att.com.sun4. 40 via MS.5.6.mtgz046.gazelle.att.com.sun4_40; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 13:41:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 1990 13:41:23 -0500 (EST) From: J Mukerji X-Andrew-Message-Size: 704+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: Info-Andrew Subject: Does AMS_NoDomainPreferredOnLocalMail work? Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 16:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 16:02:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 15:04:01 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA15870; Thu, 1 Nov 90 15:03:23 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id AA18054; Thu, 1 Nov 90 15:05:16 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 15:05:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 1990 15:05:13 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: "old hidden messages" In-Reply-To: References: Very curious. Is the total number of files the same? That is, are the two new files just renamed old ones, or did they really appear out of nowhere? This is a very unfamiliar bug. I'll keep thinking about it. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 16:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 16:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Thu, 1 Nov 90 15:07:49 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA16417; Thu, 1 Nov 90 15:06:54 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id AA18066; Thu, 1 Nov 90 15:08:47 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 15:08:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 1990 15:08:44 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Does AMS_NoDomainPreferredOnLocalMail work? In-Reply-To: References: I have AMS_NoDomainPreferredOnLocalMail: 1 AMS_UUCPSupported: 1 In my AndrewSetup file. Using this, "foo!bar" validates directly, and "nsb" validates as "Nathaniel Borenstein " rather than "Nathaniel Borenstein X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 91;andrew.cmu.edu;Tom Neuendorffer Received: from dublin.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 16:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dublin.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 16:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dublin.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.dublin.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 16:29:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 1990 16:29:59 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Neuendorffer X-Andrew-Message-Size: 952+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: kw20swk0%TWNITRI1.BITNET@vma.cc.cmu.edu (Wai-kong, Sung), Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Can ezprint print raster files? In-Reply-To: <901101094826.28b0@ersob.itri.org.tw> References: <901101094826.28b0@ersob.itri.org.tw> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 18:41:26 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: alter Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 18:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt. r3 via MS.5.6.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Thu, 1 Nov 1990 18:40:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 1990 18:40:34 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 338+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: tm echoes input? CC: Bill_van_Melle.PARC@xerox.com In-Reply-To: References: <90Oct29.194514pst.16140@alpha.xerox.com> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 01:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 01:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for tpn+; Fri, 2 Nov 90 01:20:44 EST Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU with PMDF#10034; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 01:20 EST Received: from twnitri1.bitnet (MAILER) by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 1919; Fri, 02 Nov 90 01:19:39 EST Date: Fri, 2 Nov 90 14:06:56 CST From: kw20swk0%twnitri1.bitnet@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU (Wai-kong, Sung) Subject: Can't print embbed raster To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet, tpn+%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet Message-Id: <901102140656.403a@ersob.itri.org.tw> X-St-Vmsmail-To: ST%"info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu",ST%"tpn+@andrew.cmu.edu" >Ez printing is set up for use with the adobe psdit package, which allows >the embedded postscript generated by raster or zip to be passed through >within the troff, a similar trick is probably possible with ptroff, but >I am not familiar with the package. For dealing with straight raster >files (those not embedded in text), you could use the convertraster >program to translate them directly into postscript. Also, for text >files, you can change the printcommand with the a *.printcommand >preference that will allow you to specify how you need to print them, >i.e. >*.printcommand: ptroff ; rm -f /tmp/%s.n; rm -f /tmp/%s.n.dvi By directly writing to a PostScript file, raster file can be printed out from a PostScript Printer. It can't work for embbed raster inset. Because it has no ptroff in my SUN, I transfer the troff files which generated by ezprint to a NeXT, and use ptroff to convert those troff files to PostScript there. The embbed Postscript seems to be truncated by ptroff. Is it ptroff need some special macro for those troff embedd with image? Wai-kong, Sung Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 01:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 01:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 2 Nov 90 01:49:25 EST Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU with PMDF#10034; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 01:49 EST Received: from twnitri1.bitnet (MAILER) by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 2273; Fri, 02 Nov 90 01:47:46 EST Date: Fri, 2 Nov 90 14:39:56 CST From: kw20swk0%twnitri1.bitnet@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU (Wai-kong, Sung) Subject: Scanner To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet Message-Id: <901102143956.403a@ersob.itri.org.tw> X-St-Vmsmail-To: ST%"info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu" Now the ezscan only supports the IBM 3117 scanners but here we have only MicroTek MSF-300C and Color/Gray scanners. If we modified the ezscan code to support these scanners, how much effort is needed? Wai-kong, Sung Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 10:52:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 2 Nov 90 10:49:23 EST Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU with PMDF#10034; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 10:48 EST Received: from twnitri1.bitnet (MAILER) by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 1985; Fri, 02 Nov 90 10:47:52 EST Date: Fri, 2 Nov 90 23:39:56 CST From: kw20swk0%twnitri1.bitnet@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU (Wai-kong, Sung) Subject: Problem about Mail Address To: nsb%thumper.bellcore.com@twnitri1.bitnet, info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet Message-Id: <901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> X-St-Vmsmail-To: ST%"nsb@thumper.bellcore.com", ST%"info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu" >Try just running cui and typing the command "update" to read your new >mail. If it doesn't work, please tell me exactly what it prints out as >an error message. If it says something about "set hold in .mailrc" then >you need to create a .mailrc file in your home directory and put the >following line in it: > >unset hold Yes, this is my problem; the error message is about "set hold in Mailrc or .mailrc". After I added "unset hold" in my .mailrc, it can work now. Thanks! Now I met another problem about address when send mail through messages or cui. When I typed the address like this, user@host, it works with no problem. However, when I send to local user or reply to the sender, the mail would be returned back with error. A such kind of returned mail is enclosed. What kind of problem of this? Wai-kong, Sung ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From sung Sat Nov 3 14:01:21 1990 Return-Path: Received: by x2sun6. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AB07426; Sat, 3 Nov 90 14:01:16 CST Date: Sat, 3 Nov 90 14:01:16 CST From: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <9011030601.AB07426@x2sun6.> To: sung ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 Host mailhost not found for mailer ether. 550 sung@w2sun2.noname... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by x2sun6. (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA07424; Sat, 3 Nov 90 14:01:16 CST.[C Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.x2sun6.noname.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.x2sun6.noname.sun4_40; Sat, 3 Nov 90 14:01:14 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Nov 90 14:01:14 +0800 (WST) From: Wai-kong Sung To: Wai-kong Sung Subject: Re: image test In-Reply-To: References: , I have revceived your image file! Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:12:49 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA19561; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:12:25 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id AA18696; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:14:20 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 11:14:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 1990 11:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Problem about Mail Address In-Reply-To: <901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> References: <901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> Looks to me like you're running your domain system in the same screwy way they run it at Bellcore -- i.e. your NFS domains, as returned by getdomainname(), have nothing to do with your mail domain. I suggest that you read about the "ThisDomain" variable in the AndrewSetup file, and set it to something reasonable. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:43:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 11:09:14 EST Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU with PMDF#10034; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 11:08 EST Received: from twnitri1.bitnet (MAILER) by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 2574; Fri, 02 Nov 90 11:07:19 EST Received: from CUNYVMV2 by twnitri1.bitnet via BITNET ; Sat, 3 Nov 90 00:00:23 CST Received: From CUNYVMV2(MAILER) by TWNITRI1 with Jnet id 4230 for NSB%THUM@TWNITRI1; Fri, 2 Nov 90 23:59 U Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 2145; Fri, 02 Nov 90 10:53:14 EST Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with TCP; Fri, 02 Nov 90 10:53:07 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA17981; Fri, 2 Nov 90 10:53:26 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id AA18634; Fri, 2 Nov 90 10:55:04 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 10:55:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 1990 10:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: nsb%thumper.bellcore.com%twnitri1.bitnet@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU Subject: Re: Problem about Mail Address In-Reply-To: <901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> To: nsb%thumper.bellcore.com@twnitri1.bitnet, info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet, kw20swk0%TWNITRI1.BITNET%CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU%thumper.bellcore.com@twnitri1.bi tnet (Wai-kong, Sung) Message-Id: References: <901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> Looks to me like you're running your domain system in the same screwy way they run it at Bellcore -- i.e. your NFS domains, as returned by getdomainname(), have nothing to do with your mail domain. I suggest that you read about the "ThisDomain" variable in the AndrewSetup file, and set it to something reasonable. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 14:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 90 14:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from research.att.com by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 2 Nov 90 14:38:14 EST Received: by research; Fri Nov 2 14:37:48 EST 1990 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.gargoyle.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.gargoyle.sun4_40; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 14:37:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 1990 14:37:40 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Schell To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: what machines and OS's does andrew run on? Does a list of all the machine types and operating systems that andrew has been ported to exist in the documentation (or elsewhere)? I'd be very interested in looking at one. People keep asking me questions like: "Oh, you're using ATK? Will that run on a {fill in the blank} machine?" Thanks, Bill Schell AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ bill@allegra.att.com Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 14:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 14:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt. r3 via MS.5.6.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Fri, 2 Nov 1990 14:46:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 1990 14:46:40 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 518+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: what machines and OS's does andrew run on? In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 03:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 03:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 5 Nov 90 03:54:46 EST Return-Path: pive@freya Received: from Bearn.ac.be (MAILER@BEARN) by BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU with PMDF#10034; Mon, 5 Nov 1990 03:54 EST Received: from BANRUC01.BITNET (PIVE) by Bearn.ac.be (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 7272; Mon, 05 Nov 90 09:47:30 +0100 Received: from MAZE by BANRUC01(PIVE) via INTERSTATE(NOS/VE-NOS) with MAIL_ROUTER 4.3 id $AAQ_7547 ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 09:49:12 +0200 Received: from freya by MAZE ; 5 Nov 90 09:46:43 Received: by freya (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22528; Mon, 5 Nov 90 09:41:42 GMT Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.freya.noname.sun3.35 via MS.5.6.freya.noname.sun3_35; Mon, 5 Nov 90 09:41:38 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 09:49:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 09:41:38 +0000 (GMT) From: pive%BANRUC01.BITNET@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU From: Pieter Verhaeghe Subject: Re: Can ezprint print raster files? In-Reply-To: To: info-andrew@ANDREW.CMU.EDU To: +Andrew Info Reply-To: pive@BANRUC01.BITNET Message-Id: Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1263+0 If-Type-Unsupported: send References: <901101094826.28b0@ersob.itri.org.tw>, Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 10:26:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 10:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from boulder.Colorado.EDU by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 5 Nov 90 10:23:19 EST Received: by boulder.Colorado.EDU (cu-hub.890824) Return-Path: Received: by uswat.uswest.com (usw-hub.901102) Received: from miyata.bellevue (scotty) by bellevue (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA17439; Sun, 4 Nov 90 13:14:37 PST Date: Sun, 4 Nov 90 13:14:37 PST From: twillia@uswat.uswest.com (Tim Williams) Message-Id: <9011042114.AA17439@bellevue> To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@uswat.uswest.com Subject: mach Do you know if mach is publicly available? Tim Williams Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 15:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 15:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lternet.lternet.washington.e (lternet.lternet.washington.edu) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 5 Nov 90 15:53:03 EST Received: by lternet.lternet.washington.edu (5.57/UW-NDC Revision: 2.4 ) id AA10700; Mon, 5 Nov 90 12:49:29 PST Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 12:49:29 PST From: Rudolf Nottrott Message-Id: <9011052049.AA10700@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Compilation Warnings A compilation of Andrew on a VaxStation running Ultrix 3.0, patch level 7 from Emsworth, mostly default configuration, went without any error messages; However, I did got the following warning messages: WARNING:bufferlist.ch: - long class names should use name keys "framecmd.c", line 87: warning: illegal pointer combination "framecmd.c", line 88: warning: illegal pointer combination "compchar.c", line 382: warning: illegal pointer combination "compchar.c", line 385: warning: illegal pointer combination "zipobj.c", line 181: warning: enumeration type clash, operator RETURN "zipocapt.c", line 134: warning: enumeration type clash, operator = "zipofcap.c", line 168: warning: enumeration type clash, operator = "eval.c", line 142: warning: illegal pointer combination Also, the message '*.ch: No such file or directory' (without any further comment) appeared numerous times, and so did '*.c: No such file or directory' (the latter was less frequent. In a first attempt, 'vui' and messages' seem to be running o.k. WHAT DO I DO about these warnings? + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Rudolf W. Nottrott | | Long-term Ecological Research (LTER) | | College of Forest Resources AR-10 Phone: (206) 543-8492 | | University of Washington FAX: (206) 545-0790 | | Seattle, Washington 98195 | | | | Electronic Mail: | | Internet: rNott@lternet.washington.edu | | Bitnet: rNott@lternet | | Omnet: (site:internet, id:) | | UUCP: uw-beaver!lternet!rNott | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 602;andrew.cmu.edu;Adam Stoller Received: from fish.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 1990 18:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from fish.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 1990 18:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fish.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.fish.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Mon, 5 Nov 1990 18:27:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 1990 18:27:59 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Stoller X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1118+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Compilation Warnings In-Reply-To: <9011052049.AA10700@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> References: <9011052049.AA10700@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 21:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 21:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lternet.lternet.washington.e (lternet.lternet.washington.edu) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 19:09:33 EST Received: by lternet.lternet.washington.edu (5.57/UW-NDC Revision: 2.4 ) id AA11027; Mon, 5 Nov 90 16:05:40 PST Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 16:05:40 PST From: Rudolf Nottrott Message-Id: <9011060005.AA11027@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: VUI & Terminal Emulation When accessing VUI over a dial-up connection, so far I have only been able to use a VT52 emulator (Procomm in VT52 setup). Other emulators, such as H19 or VT100 would not work correctly. There must be a way to set up VUI such that it can talk to a VT100, or some of the other common terminals. Can somebody tell me how to go about this? + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Rudolf W. Nottrott | | Long-term Ecological Research (LTER) | | Network Office | | College of Forest Resources AR-10 Phone: (206) 543-8492 | | University of Washington FAX: (206) 545-0790 | | Seattle, Washington 98195 | | Internet: rNott@lternet.washington.edu | | Bitnet: rNott@lternet | | Omnet: (site:internet, id:) | | UUCP: uw-beaver!lternet!rNott | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 6002;andrew.cmu.edu;Daniel Edward Lovinger Received: from unix8.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 22:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix8.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 5 Nov 90 22:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.10.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix8.andrew.cmu.edu.vax. 3 via MS.5.6.unix8.andrew.cmu.edu.vax_3; Mon, 5 Nov 90 22:51:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 22:51:01 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Edward Lovinger To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: VUI & Terminal Emulation In-Reply-To: <9011060005.AA11027@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> References: <9011060005.AA11027@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> Rudolf Nottrott writes: > When accessing VUI over a dial-up connection, so far I have only been > able to use a VT52 emulator (Procomm in VT52 setup). Other emulators, > such as H19 or VT100 would not work correctly. The last PD version of Procomm had a horribly broken VT100 emulation mode built into it, and I'd bet that is what your problem is. The last time I had to use a PC for remote access I used Telix 3.12 without any emulation problems. You should be able to find a copy on wsmr-simtel20.army.mil or grape.clarkson.edu (it's a step up from Procomm in other regards as well). dan not ITC but I've had to deal with Andrew for the last three and a half years Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 02:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 02:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 6 Nov 90 02:12:36 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.42) id AA15923; Mon, 5 Nov 90 22:58:52 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 6 Nov 90 03:57:01 GMT From: faatcrl!krishnav@rutgers.edu (krishnav) Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ Subject: What is andrew (CMU, I know that!) ? Message-Id: <495@faatcrl.UUCP> Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Hi I know that there is something called andrew and from CMU, but what exactly is that and where can I get it from? (any ftp site name #?) Please send me mail. I don't have usenet(internet) access !! Thanks -Krishna -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Krishna Veeraghanta Staff Engineer Computer Technologies Assoc.Inc Internet : krishnav@faatcrl.UUCP Voice:W:(609)-484-4812/6700 UUCP: .....rutgers!faatcrl!krishnav R:(609)-926-9529 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 07:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 07:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 6 Nov 90 07:29:52 EST Received: from eggs.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA06101; Tue, 6 Nov 90 07:29:47 EST Received: by eggs.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA08366; Tue, 6 Nov 90 07:29:38 EST Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.eggs.sins.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.eggs.sins.sun4_40; Tue, 6 Nov 1990 07:29:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 1990 07:29:36 -0500 (EST) From: Howard Bussey X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1599+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: VUI & Terminal Emulation Cc: Nathaniel Borenstein , "bb.andrew" Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 12:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 12:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from iinus1.ibm.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 11:39:54 EST Received: from RCHLAND by iinus1.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 7614; Tue, 06 Nov 90 11:38:17 EST Reply-To: Dave Gross Received: by po1.rchland.ibm.com (5.51/4.7) id for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu; Tue, 6 Nov 90 10:38:12 CST Received: via switchmail; Tue, 6 Nov 90 10:38:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from amboy.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 90 10:37:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from amboy.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 1990 10:37:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.amboy.rchland.ibm.com.rt.aos4 via MS.5.6.amboy.rchland.ibm.com.rt_aos4; Tue, 6 Nov 1990 10:37:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 1990 10:37:49 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Gross X-Andrew-Message-Size: 704+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , pive@ccu.uia.ac.be Subject: transfer mode graphic_COPY In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 1990 19:56:56 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: alter Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 Nov 1990 19:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt. r3 via MS.5.6.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Tue, 6 Nov 1990 19:54:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 1990 19:54:21 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1276+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew , pive@ccu.uia.ac.be Subject: Re: transfer mode graphic_COPY In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 10:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 10:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de ([129.233.17.27]) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Wed, 7 Nov 90 10:47:00 EST Received: by lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de (5.61+/IDA-1.2.8/gandalf.2) id AA09720; Wed, 7 Nov 90 16:09:40 -0100 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lazy.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.lazy.pmax_3; Wed, 7 Nov 1990 16:09:38 -0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 1990 16:09:38 -0100 From: Christoph Mai To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: porting atk to VMS ? Cc: Juergen Henke We are thinking 'bout a port of ATK to VMS. Is this very crazy ? Anybody out there already thought about this ? Please, VMS gurus, how could we realize dynamic loading in VMS ? Is it possible at all ? How to change symbol tables in a VMS object file (makedo) ? Please comment (FLAMES etc.) via e-mail, i'll summarize. Thanks in advance, Christoph. ____________________________________________________________ Christoph Mai (chm@qt.IPA.Fhg.de) Fraunhofer-Institut f. Produktionstechnik u. Automatisierung Eierstrasse 46,D-7000 Stuttgart 1 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 38;andrew.cmu.edu;Susan Straub Received: from hamburg.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 1990 11:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hamburg.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 1990 11:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.hamburg.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.hamburg.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Wed, 7 Nov 1990 11:23:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 1990 11:23:18 -0500 (EST) From: Susan Straub X-Andrew-Message-Size: 7262+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: Info-Andrew , faatcrl!krishnav@rutgers.edu (krishnav) Subject: Re: What is andrew (CMU, I know that!) ? In-Reply-To: <495@faatcrl.UUCP> References: <495@faatcrl.UUCP> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:56:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from uunet.uu.net by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:51:22 EST Received: from saber.com by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA26247; Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:51:17 -0500 From: saber.com!wyant@saber.com Received: from saber.saber.com by bowie (4.1/0.99) id AA03912; Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:50:41 EST Received: from riposte.saber.com by saber.saber.com (5.64+/SABER 0.9) id AA04267; Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:49:42 -0500 Received: by riposte (4.0/0.99) id AA03496; Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:49:37 EST Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 12:49:37 EST Message-Id: <9011071749.AA03496@riposte> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, uunet!qt.ipa.fhg.de!mai@uunet.UU.NET Subject: Re: porting atk to VMS ? Cc: henke@qt.ipa.fhg.de The dynamic loading is probably not the hard part of porting to VMS. VMS actually has a callable dynamic loader, in the form of the 'lib_$find_symbol' library call. This call takes an object file name and a symbol name. It loads the object file and returns a pointer to the given symbol (if present). For an example of layer ATK on top of an existing dynamic loader look at the Apollo specific code, which uses the existing Apollo/Domain-OS dynamic loader. My guess as to what will be hardest to do is asynchronous I/O handling (read select). Since, last time I looked, VMS didn't provide a select as part of their C Library, you'll have to dummy up your own (using event flags I guess). The other problems that you encounter will probably have to do with terminal IO (setting PTY characteristics), and differences in signal handling. I don't think its an entirely crazy idea. Did'nt someone at IBM do a trial port to OS/2 ? So in theory it is possible to port away from Unix. -- Geoff Wyant wyant@saber.com Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 17:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 17:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Wed, 7 Nov 90 17:55:50 EST Received: by ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com (5.61/1.14) id AA03636; Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:55:36 -0800 Received: from neon.awdpa.ibm.com by ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (5.61/1.15) id AA07614; Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:53:13 -0800 Received: by neon.awdpa.ibm.com (5.61/1.14) id AA05088; Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:53:05 -0800 From: marc@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Marc Pawliger) Message-Id: <9011072253.AA05088@neon.awdpa.ibm.com> Subject: Re: porting atk to VMS To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:53:03 PST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] I think there is a unix-type compatibility library for VMS. I know that CUI was ported to VMS and part of that involved using this library for socket and select emulation. You might want to contact the Computer Center at CMU or your local DECUS chapter. --marc -- +---Marc Pawliger---IBM Advanced Workstations Division---Palo Alto, CA---+ | Internet: marc@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com VNET: MARCP at AUSVM6 | | UUCP: uunet!ibmsupt!ibmpa!marc Phone: (415) 855-3493 | +------IBMinet: marc@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com------IBM T/L: 465-3493--------+ Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 19:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 19:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from lternet.lternet.washington.e (lternet.lternet.washington.edu) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Wed, 7 Nov 90 16:38:49 EST Received: by lternet.lternet.washington.edu (5.57/UW-NDC Revision: 2.4 ) id AA13312; Wed, 7 Nov 90 13:34:19 PST Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.70.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lternet.washington.edu.vax.3 via MS.5.6.lternet.washington.edu.vax_3; Wed, 7 Nov 1990 13:34:14 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 1990 13:34:14 -0800 (PST) From: Rudolf Nottrott To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Printing *.help files It used to be possible to print andrew/help/*.help files on a VT100 teminal with 'ezprint -t filename | nroff". This does not seem possible any longer (ezprint no longer there?). Is there any way of achieving the same result? + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | Rudolf W. Nottrott | | Long-term Ecological Research (LTER) | | College of Forest Resources AR-10 Phone: (206) 543-8492 | | University of Washington FAX: (206) 545-0790 | | Seattle, Washington 98195 | | | | Internet: rNott@lternet.washington.edu | | Bitnet: rNott@lternet | | Omnet: (site:internet, id:) | | UUCP: uw-beaver!lternet!rNott | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 00:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 00:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cadre.dsl.pitt.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 8 Nov 90 00:11:22 EST Received: by cadre.dsl.pitt.edu (5.61/1.34) id AA27272; Thu, 8 Nov 90 00:10:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 00:10:13 -0500 From: sean@dsl.pitt.edu (Sean McLinden) Message-Id: <9011080510.AA27272@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, marc@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com Subject: Re: porting atk to VMS There are two options for Unix compatibility: 1. VAX-C 3.0 plus the DECShell and VMS connection (UCX...something or other), which in it's most recent form supports select(2) and other Unixisms. 2. VAX-C or GCC with Peter Kay's sockit library which runs over Wally TCP/IP, CMU-TEK TCP/IP, and maybe another (not, currently, Multinet). I dunno about the former, but the latter implements only enough of the functionality of sockets to support the implementation of basic TCP/IP services. The full functionality of the socket library is a bit more difficult in VMS, because of VMSs way of handling asynchronous IO, so that any socket emulation is going to be targeted at specific applications. The better approach would be to use QIOs, but that means changing a good deal of code. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see someone do it. But we decided that it would make more sense to wait for all of our applications to migrate to UNIX, and then trash VMS, then try to "fix" VMS. Sean McLinden Decision Systems Laboratory University of Pittsburgh Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 01:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 01:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ghost.unimi.it ([131.175.10.64]) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 8 Nov 90 01:47:16 EST Received: by ghost.unimi.it id AA11851 (5.65+/IDA-1.3.5); Thu, 8 Nov 90 07:47:24 +0100 Message-Id: <9011080647.AA11851@ghost.unimi.it> From: sandro@ghost.unimi.it (Sandro Missaglia) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 07:47:24 MET X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.2 7/11/90) To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu, info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu, info-andrew-bugs-request@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: andrew on hp9000s800 (hp_pa) Cc: STAFF@ghost.unimi.it We are interested, as DSI of USM (Dipartimento di Scienze dell' Informazione dell' Universita` degli Studi di Milano : Computer science Departement of Milan University - Italy), at the Andrew System. We have obtained from Internet machines the version 3.0 of the Public Domain srcs distributed with X11R4; but we need install them on a HP9000s800 machine, and on this version there is not any machine dependent code specific for this class of computer. We will appreciate very much any information about more recent versions and possibly customization for the hp_pa RISC architecture of HP9000s800. We have already sent a request to info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu two weeks ago, but have not received any answer. We hope Better Luck or Attention. God Luck For any contact our address is : Sandro Missaglia & Marco Negri E-Mail : STAFF@ghost.unimi.it Phone : +39-2-7575242 Universita` di Milano Fax : +39-2-76110556 Dip. Scienze dell'Informazione Telex : 335199 - MIDSII Via Moretto da Brescia, 9 I-20133 Milano - Italy - '92 Europe Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 03:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 03:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from fhg.de ([192.44.1.1]) by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 8 Nov 90 03:50:34 EST Received: by fhg.de; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:43:19 +0100 Received: by fhg.de with SMTP; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:43:08 +0100 lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de SMTP X-Mailer-Fhg-Sun: ## FHG.DE ## Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:43:08 +0100 Received: by lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de (5.61+/IDA-1.2.8/gandalf.2) id AA09916; Wed, 7 Nov 90 19:23:55 -0100 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lazy.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.lazy.pmax_3; Wed, 7 Nov 1990 19:23:52 -0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 1990 19:23:52 -0100 From: Juergen Henke X-Andrew-Message-Size: 446+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: 8-bit characters, how to use ? Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 07:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 07:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from birk.cs.chalmers.se by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 8 Nov 90 07:19:00 EST Received: from hatti5.cs.chalmers.se by birk.cs.chalmers.se id AA18045; Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:18:24 +0100 Received: by hatti5 id AA01578; Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:18:14 EST Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.hatti5.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.hatti5.pmax_3; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 13:18:12 +0100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 13:18:12 +0100 (EST) From: Christer Bernerus X-Andrew-Message-Size: 2017+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, Juergen Henke Subject: Re: 8-bit characters, how to use ? In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from northstar2.dartmouth.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:06:20 EST Received: by northstar2.dartmouth.edu (5.61D1/4.1) id AA12311; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:06:00 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.northstar2.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.northstar2.rt_r3; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:05:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:05:59 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony Edwards To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: zip conversion utility In the near future, I'll be writing a utility to convert Zip-format files to a local metafile format. Is there documentation on how Zip encodes its data or is my best shot to look at the source code? - Anthony Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:47:06 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA28760; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:46:47 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id AA02982; Thu, 8 Nov 90 09:48:45 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 09:48:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 09:48:40 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein To: Rudolf Nottrott Subject: Re: Printing *.help files Cc: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: Try "help -m keyword" The "-m" switch basically means "act like the man command" -- i.e. work on a normal UNIX terminal. It's a bit slow, but it works. -- Nathaniel Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 13;andrew.cmu.edu;Fred Hansen Received: from bangor.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-strip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 09:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from bangor.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 09:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.bangor.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.bangor.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 09:51:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 09:51:45 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Hansen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 220+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: Info-Andrew , kw20swk0%twnitri1.bitnet@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU (Wai-kong, Sung) Subject: Re: Scanner In-Reply-To: <901102143956.403a@ersob.itri.org.tw> References: <901102143956.403a@ersob.itri.org.tw> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from northstar2.dartmouth.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:35:31 EST Received: by northstar2.dartmouth.edu (5.61D1/4.1) id AA12404; Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:35:12 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.northstar2.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.northstar2.rt_r3; Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:35:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 13:35:11 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony Edwards X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1184+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: james@engrss2.unl.edu Subject: Re: bug in help (ATK) Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 91;andrew.cmu.edu;Tom Neuendorffer Received: from dublin.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 14:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from dublin.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 14:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dublin.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.dublin.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 14:52:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 14:52:21 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Neuendorffer X-Andrew-Message-Size: 3117+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Juergen Henke Subject: Re: 8-bit characters, how to use ? In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 15:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 15:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 8 Nov 90 15:11:37 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.42) id AA24343; Thu, 8 Nov 90 11:28:31 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 8 Nov 90 18:44:52 GMT From: auspex!guy@uunet.uu.net (Guy Harris) Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Subject: Re: porting atk to VMS ? Message-Id: <4283@auspex.auspex.com> References: <9011071749.AA03496@riposte> Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu >The dynamic loading is probably not the hard part of porting >to VMS. VMS actually has a callable dynamic loader, in the form >of the 'lib_$find_symbol' library call. This call takes an object file >name and a symbol name. It loads the object file and returns a pointer >to the given symbol (if present). For an example of layer ATK on top >of an existing dynamic loader look at the Apollo specific code, which >uses the existing Apollo/Domain-OS dynamic loader. Or the IBM RISC System/6000 dynamic loader, which uses the existing AIX 3.1 dynamic loader. Bear in mind, though, that both those schemes depend on the ability to mark a particular symbol in the dynamically loaded file as "distinguished" by making it the "entry point symbol"; I don't know if the VMS dynamic loader has this facility, but the SunOS 4.1/System V Release 4 dynamic loader does *not*, as far as I know, so you may have to look up that symbol explicitly. The way that seemed to work in my cobbled-up prototype for SunOS 4.1/S5R4 is to do: /* * Construct name of GetClassInfo symbol from the package name * by stripping off the suffix and appending "__GetClassInfo". * You can't get the entry point value from a shareable object * from the "dl*()" routines, which is why we have to do this * stuff. * We strip off the suffix because "doindex", curse its soul, * hands us the last component of the name of the *file* as * the package name, suffix and all. */ (void) strcpy(epname, name); p = strrchr(epname, '.'); if (p == NULL) p = epname + strlen(epname); (void) strcpy(p, "__GetClassInfo"); to construct the name of the symbol in question. "name" is the second argument to "doload". The "path" (fifth) argument is the actual pathname of the file to be loaded. Note also that you will have to ensure that some symbols in the "class" loader code are accessible to the dynamic loader, as the dynamically-loaded object may refer to them (e.g., "class_RoutineStruct"). This appears to require varying amounts of hackery on Domain/OS and AIX 3.1, and also requires hackery in SunOS 4.1/S5R4: in Domain/OS, "doload()" explicilty calls the loader to add them to the Known Global Table; in AIX 3.1, the "class" loader ".o" files are linked together into a single ".o" file and the linker is explicitly told to export them; in SunOS 4.1 and (probably) S5R4, the best or maybe even only way to do so is to make "libclass.a" into a *shared* library. (No, the prototype doesn't really "work" - I hand-built pieces of it instead of changing the Imakefiles, and I've only tested it with the stuff in the "overhead/class/testing" directory, not with ATK itself. I've no idea when I'll do anything further on it, and there are some unresolved issues waiting some responses to mail I sent out....) Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 20:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from northstar2.dartmouth.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Thu, 8 Nov 90 17:30:48 EST Received: by northstar2.dartmouth.edu (5.61D1/4.1) id AA12496; Thu, 8 Nov 90 17:30:21 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.northstar2.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.northstar2.rt_r3; Thu, 8 Nov 90 17:30:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Nov 90 17:30:19 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony Edwards X-Andrew-Message-Size: 113+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: susan+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: bug in help (ATK) In-Reply-To: <0bCPD3600VtpEZ7mZr@andrew.cmu.edu> References: , <0bCPD3600VtpEZ7mZr@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 13;andrew.cmu.edu;Fred Hansen Received: from bangor.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 21:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from bangor.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 21:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.bangor.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.bangor.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Thu, 8 Nov 1990 21:15:40 -0500 (EST) ReSent-Message-ID: ReSent-Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 21:15:40 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: Fred Hansen If-Type-Unsupported: send ReSent-To: Info-Andrew Return-path: Message-Id: <0bCSpEYGG02=9mEY0l@athena.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 1990 18:42:08 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cattey X-Andrew-Message-Size: 270+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Fred Hansen Subject: Re: Good news! PS/2 Dynamic objects are now of reasonable size. In-Reply-To: References: , Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 01:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 01:34:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Received: from vma.cc.cmu.edu by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 9 Nov 90 01:34:20 EST Received: from VMA.CC.CMU.EDU by vma.cc.cmu.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with BSMTP id 7093; Fri, 09 Nov 90 01:32:27 EST Received: from TWNITRI1.BITNET (KW20SWK0) by VMA.CC.CMU.EDU (Mailer R2.04) with BSMTP id 7092; Fri, 09 Nov 90 01:32:26 EST Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 14:33 U From: Subject: .MS.DirectPost To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@vma.cc.cmu.edu X-Original-To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, KW20SWK0 I am trying to build a private bboard and following the instructions in the document privbb.help. I created a file .MS.DirectPost in the directory ~/.MESSAGES_PUBLIC liked that 0 sung+andrew@w2sun2 According to the document, now others can send messages to "sung+andrew@w2sun2", but when I tried it; cui can't reconize this address. We are using BSD mail instead of AMDS here. Does .MS.DirectPost only work in AMDS? Wai-kong, Sung CCL/ITRI Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 04:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 04:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from birk.cs.chalmers.se by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 9 Nov 90 04:51:35 EST Received: from hatti5.cs.chalmers.se by birk.cs.chalmers.se id AA00681; Fri, 9 Nov 90 10:49:18 +0100 Received: by hatti5 id AA01914; Fri, 9 Nov 90 10:49:08 EST Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.hatti5.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.hatti5.pmax_3; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 10:49:04 +0100 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 1990 10:49:04 +0100 (EST) From: Christer Bernerus X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1840+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com Subject: Re: 8-bit characters, how to use ? Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: , Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 08:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 08:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from vma.cc.cmu.edu by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 9 Nov 90 08:54:02 EST Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by vma.cc.cmu.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1) with TCP; Fri, 09 Nov 90 08:52:09 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id AA22361; Fri, 9 Nov 90 08:53:51 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id AA00650; Fri, 9 Nov 90 08:55:48 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 08:55:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 1990 08:55:43 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: .MS.DirectPost In-Reply-To: References: The problem isn't .MS.DirectPost, it's what you put in it. What goes there has to be a valid address. sung+andrew is simply not a valid address in a normal BSD delivery environment. (With AMDS, a valid userid can be followed by a plus sign and ANY string, but this is not true with BSD mail delivery.) To obtain the same kind of functionality with BSD/sendmail delivery, you can hide the informaton in the RFC822 route phrase, using an address of the following form: sung+andrew or, if you prefer sung+andrew Either of these should work fine, at least if you've upgraded to Andrew patch level 6 or higher. Let me know if that isn't clear. -- Nathaniel X-Andrew-Authenticated-As: 469;andrew.cmu.edu;Craig F. Everhart Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1312;transarc.com;Craig Everhart Received: from apollo.transarc.com via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl@andre w.cmu.edu) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 09:37:44 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from apollo.transarc.com via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 09:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.apollo.transarc.com.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.apollo.transarc.com.pmax_3; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 09:34:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 1990 09:34:16 -0500 (EST) From: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1040+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Christer Bernerus Subject: Re: 8-bit characters, how to use ? CC: Info-Andrew In-Reply-To: References: , Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 11:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 11:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from fhg.de by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 9 Nov 90 11:09:22 EST Received: by fhg.de; Fri, 9 Nov 90 17:05:12 +0100 Received: by fhg.de with SMTP; Fri, 9 Nov 90 17:04:59 +0100 lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de SMTP X-Mailer-Fhg-Sun: ## FHG.DE ## Fri, 9 Nov 90 17:04:59 +0100 Received: by lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de (5.61+/IDA-1.2.8/gandalf.2) id AA12284; Fri, 9 Nov 90 17:07:58 -0100 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lazy.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.lazy.pmax_3; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 17:07:57 -0100 Message-Id: <4bCj1xIP8000AjQWhD@lazy> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 1990 17:07:57 -0100 From: Juergen Henke X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1012+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com Subject: Re: 8-bit characters, how to use ? Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: , , Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 12:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 12:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from lombard.dartmouth.edu by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 11:50:48 EST Received: by lombard.dartmouth.edu (4.1/4.1) id AA00603; Fri, 9 Nov 90 11:48:37 EST Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lombard.noname.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.lombard.noname.sun4_40; Fri, 9 Nov 90 11:48:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 11:48:35 -0500 (EST) From: Kris Olander X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1217+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: ?S directive in preferences (systype) Cc: Kris Olander X-Andrew-Authenticated-As: 469;andrew.cmu.edu;Craig F. Everhart Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1312;transarc.com;Craig Everhart Received: from apollo.transarc.com via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl@andre w.cmu.edu) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 13:12:20 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from apollo.transarc.com via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 13:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.apollo.transarc.com.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.apollo.transarc.com.pmax_3; Fri, 9 Nov 1990 13:10:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 1990 13:10:45 -0500 (EST) From: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com X-Andrew-Message-Size: 894+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew , Kris Olander Subject: Re: ?S directive in preferences (systype) CC: Kris Olander In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 912;andrew.cmu.edu;Stephen Chan Received: from sage.dws.acs.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 16:03:38 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from sage.dws.acs.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 9 Nov 90 16:02:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.8.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.sage.dws.acs.cmu.edu.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.sage.dws.acs.cmu.edu.pmax_3; Fri, 9 Nov 90 16:02:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Nov 90 16:02:25 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Chan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 126+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: FLAMES question Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po9.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Sat, 10 Nov 90 13:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 10 Nov 90 13:32:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from elrond.ida.liu.se by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Sat, 10 Nov 90 13:31:37 EST Received: from math.liu.se by elrond.ida.liu.se with SMTP (5.61-bind 1.5X+ida/IDA-1.2.8-mc2.5-2) id AA11692; Sat, 10 Nov 90 19:31:27 +0100 Received: from calc.yp by math.liu.se (4.1/SMI-4.0(main 1.15)-2) id AA09063; Sat, 10 Nov 90 19:31:25 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 90 19:31:25 +0100 From: oldam@math.liu.se (Olof Damberg) Message-Id: <9011101831.AA09063@math.liu.se> Received: by calc.yp (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13760; Sat, 10 Nov 90 19:31:20 +0100 To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Help on printing ATK docs I have some difficulties getting printing to work with multi-media docs. As I understand, ATK is set up to use ditroff and psdit to do the formatting. The problem is that we don't have new ditroff. We do have GNU groff, which should be 'highly compatible' with ditroff according to the GNU docs. Is there anyone who has tried to combine groff and psdit, or has a clue how to make grops (the GNU troff to PS processor) manage included PostScript. Groff+grops works nicely on ordinary text, but with included rasters or anything else that produces embedded PostScript, it won't work. Any suggestions on other combinations ? Thanks for your help ! ------------------------------------------------------------- Olof Damberg | email: oldam@math.liu.se Dept of Math, Linkoping University | phone: +46 13 281473 S-581 83 Linkoping, SWEDEN | fax: +46 13 100746 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 12 Nov 90 14:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 12 Nov 90 14:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 12 Nov 90 14:01:47 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.42) id AA07928; Mon, 12 Nov 90 10:59:15 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 12 Nov 90 00:58:55 GMT From: hpfcso!chance@hplabs.hpl.hp.com (Chance Brohm) Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Subject: HP9000/300: whereis makedepend? Message-Id: <8450001@hpfcso.HP.COM> Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu I'm tring to make Andrew on a HP9000/370 running HP-UX 7.0. I've run into a couple of problems. The second one has me stopped. I'd appreciate any assistance you can give me. First problem: imake generates unusable Makefiles. The problem seems to be that my /lib/cpp (Rev 64.32) inserts line-number information by default. The -P flag diables that behavior, so I set IMAKEINCLUDE='-I. -P' and that made this problem go away. (I couldn't just set IMAKEINCLUDE=-P because imake wanted it to start with "-I") Second problem: executable not found: /usr/local/bin/makedepend. I know about mkmf (/usr/bin/mkmf comes with HP-UX) but I can't seem to find /usr/local/bin/makedepend. Is it another X11 tool like imake? Where can I find it (source or exec for HP 300_70)? Thanks in advance! -Chance Brohm Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 602;andrew.cmu.edu;Adam Stoller Received: from fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 12 Nov 1990 15:04:14 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 12 Nov 1990 15:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu.sun3. 35 via MS.5.6.fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu.sun3_35; Mon, 12 Nov 1990 15:02:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 1990 15:02:04 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Stoller X-Andrew-Message-Size: 102+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: HP9000/300: whereis makedepend? In-Reply-To: <8450001@hpfcso.HP.COM> References: <8450001@hpfcso.HP.COM> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 12 Nov 90 20:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 12 Nov 90 20:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from lombard.dartmouth.edu by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Mon, 12 Nov 90 16:18:35 EST Received: by lombard.dartmouth.edu (4.1/4.1) id AA27918; Mon, 12 Nov 90 16:17:15 EST Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 16:17:15 EST From: kriso@lombard.dartmouth.edu (Kris Olander) Message-Id: <9011122117.AA27918@lombard.dartmouth.edu> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: makedo bad install on SunOS 4.0.3c I don't know if this has already been reported or not, but it seems like this is annoying enough to mention again. When makedo gets installed in /usr/andrew/bin, install creates a subdirectory called makedo and then makedo.csh is copied into the subdirectory. Consequently, when makedo is executed, the make exits with 'Permission denined' which is appropriate when a directory is executed. The install command in ./overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc is: install -c -m 0555 makedo.csh /usr/andrew/bin/makedo To get around this, you just have to make sure that /usr/andrew/bin/makedo exists as a file, not a directory before the 'install' command is executed. This is on a Sun4/110 running SunOS4.0.3c -Kris X-Added: With Flames (itcbb v2.1) Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew-bugs+@andrew.cmu.edu (->itcbb+itc.apars.in) ID ; Mon, 12 Nov 90 19:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Mon, 12 Nov 90 17:15:14 EST Received: from LAKOTA.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA12527; Mon, 12 Nov 90 17:14:14 EST Received: by LAKOTA.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA12558; Mon, 12 Nov 90 17:14:10 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lakota.vax.43 via MS.5.6.lakota.vax_43; Mon, 12 Nov 1990 17:14:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 1990 17:14:09 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cattey To: info-andrew-bugs+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Patch to enable Duplex preference as documented. The preferences help page says there is a preference "Duplex" to enable processing for duplex printers. There was no support in txttroff.c for this preference. Instead duplex print processing was enabled by default. At mit we needed to have Simplex printing to be the default and an easy way to switch between them that did not involve users resorting to troff. The following patch to txttroff.c enables it to conform to the documented printing procedure: If the Duplex preference is true, the initial troff output sets the number register DP to be 0 (which enables recto/verso headers and footers). If the Duplex preference is false, DP is 1 which sets up simplex printing. Additionally, the following has been done which goes beyond the spec: 1. Following the convention of controlling if the table of Contents is printed, there is a #define DUPLEXBYDEFAULT FALSE which is the hard-coded fallback if now preference is set. 2. Continuing with the convention, an enviornment variable Duplex is checked, and if it exists and does not have a value beginning with 'N' or 'n' it will override the Duplex preference. 3. I broke the comment on the #define CONTENTSBYDEFAULT with a newline instead of many tabs. Share and enjoy, Next we get a 7 foot sofa to turn a 6 foot corner. -wdc Here is the patch: *** /tmp/,RCSt1012542 Mon Nov 12 16:42:08 1990 --- txttroff.c Mon Nov 12 16:40:02 1990 *************** *** 88,94 **** #define ENDNOTESONLY FALSE /* Administrators should define as TRUE if local troff can't support footnotes */ #define CONTENTSBYDEFAULT FALSE /* define the default behavior regarding the printing of tables ! of contents if the appropriate styles are present */ #define ENUMERATE #define INDENTSPACE 6 #ifdef ENUMERATE --- 88,96 ---- #define ENDNOTESONLY FALSE /* Administrators should define as TRUE if local troff can't support footnotes */ #define CONTENTSBYDEFAULT FALSE /* define the default behavior regarding the printing of tables ! of contents if the appropriate styles are present */ ! #define DUPLEXBYDEFAULT FALSE /* default behavior: simplex printing or duplex printing */ ! #define ENUMERATE #define INDENTSPACE 6 #ifdef ENUMERATE *************** *** 127,132 **** --- 129,135 ---- static struct text_statevector sv, nsv; /* Current and new state vectors */ static boolean printContents; /* Flag to indicate if we are printing a table of contents */ + static boolean printDuplex; /* Flag to indicate if we process for duplex printing. */ static struct { char *fontname; char *fontcodes[9]; *************** *** 544,551 **** if