X-Andrew-Authenticated-As: 469;andrew.cmu.edu;Craig F. Everhart Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1312;transarc.com;Craig Everhart Received: from apollo.transarc.com via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl@andre w.cmu.edu) ID ; Fri, 1 Mar 1991 09:48:15 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from apollo.transarc.com via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Mar 1991 09:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.apollo.transarc.com.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.apollo.transarc.com.pmax_3; Fri, 1 Mar 1991 09:45:46 -0500 (EST) ReSent-Message-ID: ReSent-Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1991 09:45:46 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com ReSent-To: Info-Andrew Return-path: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 08:06:57 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Wohl X-Andrew-Message-Size: 7005+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: info-afs , nsb@thumper.bellcore.com, "Bob Oesterlin" Subject: Re: Archive command for AMS bboards? CC: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com, PC-Daemon In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 1 Mar 91 10:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Mar 91 10:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from research.att.com by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for wjh+; Fri, 1 Mar 91 10:13:38 EST Received: by research; Fri Mar 1 10:13:10 EST 1991 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.gargoyle.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.gargoyle.sun4_40; Fri, 1 Mar 1991 10:12:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1991 10:12:56 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Schell X-Andrew-Message-Size: 287+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , asylum!osc!jgk@decwrl.dec.com (Joe Keane), Fred Hansen Subject: Re: Yet Another Suggested Message System Feature In-Reply-To: References: , <4579@osc.COM>, Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Mar 91 14:39:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Mar 91 14:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 4 Mar 91 14:36:21 EST Received: from slic.cellbio.duke.edu by duke.cs.duke.edu (5.64/2.12G/4.1) id AA16896; Mon, 4 Mar 91 14:36:18 -0500 Received: by slic.cellbio.duke.edu (5.52/890607.SGI) (for @duke.cs.duke.edu:info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) id AA14418; Mon, 4 Mar 91 14:36:30 EST Date: Mon, 4 Mar 91 14:36:30 EST From: jit@slic.cellbio.duke.edu (Jit Keong Tan) Message-Id: <9103041936.AA14418@slic.cellbio.duke.edu> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: ATK on Silicon Graphics Has anyone sucessfully ported ATK onto the Silicon Graphics platform ? Please reply to me directly as I don't normally read this group. Thanks. -------------------------------------------------------- Jit Keong Tan | internet: jit@slic.cellbio.duke.edu (919) 684-8098 | bitnet : tan00001@dukemc.bitnet -------------------------------------------------------- U.S. Mail: Duke University Medical Center Department Of Cell Biology Box 3709 385 Nanaline Duke Bldg, Durham, NC 27710 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 5 Mar 91 12:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 5 Mar 91 12:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from elysees.dartmouth.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 5 Mar 91 12:14:37 EST Received: by elysees.dartmouth.edu (5.65D1/4.2) id AA01555; Tue, 5 Mar 91 12:14:35 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.elysees.noname.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.elysees.noname.sun4_40; Tue, 5 Mar 1991 12:14:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1991 12:14:34 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony Edwards X-Andrew-Message-Size: 548+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Timout too long in messages-s Cc: Curtis Galloway In-Reply-To: <0bnLXl24YtUe0X3Wo0@sco.COM> References: <0bnLXl24YtUe0X3Wo0@sco.COM> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 602;andrew.cmu.edu;Adam Stoller Received: from fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 5 Mar 1991 14:10:12 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 5 Mar 1991 14:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu.sun3. 35 via MS.5.6.fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu.sun3_35; Tue, 5 Mar 1991 14:04:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1991 14:04:03 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Stoller X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1319+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Timout too long in messages-s In-Reply-To: References: <0bnLXl24YtUe0X3Wo0@sco.COM> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 5 Mar 91 15:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 5 Mar 91 15:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Tue, 5 Mar 91 15:20:48 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu; Tue, 5 Mar 91 15:20:47 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.12/4.7) id for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu; Tue, 5 Mar 91 15:23:43 est Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.greenbush.mouseclub.sun4_40; Tue, 5 Mar 1991 15:23:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1991 15:23:40 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Timout too long in messages-s In-Reply-To: References: <0bnLXl24YtUe0X3Wo0@sco.COM> , I'm not sure, but I think you want to modify AMS_SNAP_TIMEOUT in ams/libs/hdrs/snapams.h. At any rate, the relevant code is in ams/libs/snap/cuisnap.c. -- Nathaniel Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 91 08:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 91 08:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from carla.dist.unige.it by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 7 Mar 91 08:43:18 EST Received: from jrc.UUCP by carla.dist.unige.it with UUCP (5.61++/IDA-1.2.8) id AA03485; Thu, 7 Mar 91 14:47:57 +0100 Received: from kbs.isei.jrc.it (medusa) by jrc.it; Thu, 7 Mar 91 14:23:35 GMT Received: by kbs.isei.jrc.it (4.0/JRC-S-1.0); Thu, 7 Mar 91 14:26:45 +0100 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.inter.kbs.isei.jrc.it.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.inter.kbs.isei.jrc.it.sun4_40; Thu, 7 Mar 1991 14:26:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1991 14:26:30 +0100 (MET) From: Paul Meylemans To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: A browser for the ATK classes I am using Andrew not only as an end-user environment, but also as a development environment and as the basis for prototyping new applications. One of the major difficulties I encountered when making new classes is the lack of a class browser (something like the SmallTalk browser) that shows me the existing classes, their inheritance path, the class's data structure and the available methods. Such a browser would also be a nice extension to the on-line help and the documentation, that does not show the same level of clarity throughout the whole set. I cannot imagine that such a browser would not be available in some form, given the large number of users of the Andrew environment (and they cannot all be end-users). If someone out there already has made an Andrew class browser or has thought about making one, please let me know. I would be very greatfull. Paul Meylemans Joint Research Center of the European Communities Ispra Establishment I-21020 Ispra (VA) Italy Tel. +39-332-78.54.75 Fax. +39-332-78.92.56 e-mail p_meylemans@jrc.it Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 2368;andrew.cmu.edu;Douglas F. DeJulio Received: from vacuna.mercury.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 91 09:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from vacuna.mercury.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 91 09:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.10.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.vacuna.mercury.andrew.cmu .edu.pmax.30 via MS.5.6.vacuna.mercury.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_30; Thu, 7 Mar 91 09:48:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0bpZ_Uu00WCPE6hlxw@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 91 09:48:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Douglas F. DeJulio" To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: A browser for the ATK classes In-Reply-To: References: Paul Meylemans writes: > If someone out there already has made an Andrew class browser or has > thought about making one, please let me know. Wasn't there one of these done in org at one point? I think I remember seeing one a long time ago. Does anybody else remember something like this? -- Doug DeJulio dd26+@andrew.cmu.edu Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 91 12:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 91 12:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 7 Mar 91 12:01:50 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.42) id AA09720; Thu, 7 Mar 91 08:56:18 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 7 Mar 91 16:34:48 GMT From: bu.edu!xylogics!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!qucdn! hooper@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Andy Hooper) Organization: Queen's University at Kingston Subject: Re: Building Andrew Under SunOS 4.x Message-Id: <91066.113448HOOPER@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> References: , Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu I've gotten a though a lot of the build of Andrew with patch.009 installed, on SunOS 4.1, but hit a snag in atk/layout. filler.c and filler.ch added in this patch reference cel.c and cel.ch but the latter two are missing. fillerv has the same problem with celv. Are cel and celv available in a later patch, or from some other source? ----- Andy Hooper Queen's University, Kingston, Canada Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 91;andrew.cmu.edu;Tom Neuendorffer Received: from dublin.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 1991 12:29:05 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from dublin.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Mar 1991 12:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dublin.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.r3 via MS.5.6.dublin.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Thu, 7 Mar 1991 12:26:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1991 12:26:34 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Neuendorffer X-Andrew-Message-Size: 250+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew , bu.edu!xylogics!samsung!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!qucdn! hooper@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Andy Hooper) Subject: Re: Building Andrew Under SunOS 4.x In-Reply-To: <91066.113448HOOPER@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> References: , <91066.113448HOOPER@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 91 11:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 91 11:18:15 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 91 11:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from elysees.dartmouth.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 8 Mar 91 11:16:47 EST Received: by elysees.dartmouth.edu (5.65D1/4.2) id AA15211; Fri, 8 Mar 91 11:16:45 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.elysees.noname.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.elysees.noname.sun4_40; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 11:16:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1991 11:16:43 -0500 (EST) From: Anthony Edwards X-Andrew-Message-Size: 258+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Check Spelling - small suggestion for consistency Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 602;andrew.cmu.edu;Adam Stoller Received: from fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:16:56 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu.sun3. 35 via MS.5.6.fishtank.andrew.cmu.edu.sun3_35; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:16:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4bpxHV600as9M9REsr@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:16:01 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Stoller X-Andrew-Message-Size: 751+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Check Spelling - small suggestion for consistency In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:48:27 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt. r3 via MS.5.6.fallscreek.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_r3; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:44:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1991 13:44:51 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 466+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Check Spelling - small suggestion for consistency In-Reply-To: <4bpxHV600as9M9REsr@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <4bpxHV600as9M9REsr@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 91 20:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 8 Mar 91 20:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from griffin.uvm.edu by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 8 Mar 91 20:13:01 EST Received: by UVM.EDU (5.61+/1.11) id AA06396; Fri, 8 Mar 91 20:12:59 -0500 Received: from cui.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.griffin.uvm.edu.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.griffin.uvm.edu.sun4_40; Fri, 8 Mar 1991 20:12:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <8bq3OOe4lU4=4Mw0QH@griffin.uvm.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1991 20:12:58 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrew Dist List) Subject: MS leaves some messages in /tmp... Cc: I have noticed that MS leaves copies of some outbound messages in /tmp, instead of deleting them like it ought. This seems to happen primarily with address validation errors; perhaps someone forgot an unlink somewhere? Or is this a feature? -GAWollman -- Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Sun, 10 Mar 91 15:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 10 Mar 91 15:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Sun, 10 Mar 91 15:37:50 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.42) id AA20214; Sun, 10 Mar 91 12:22:37 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 10 Mar 91 20:21:25 GMT From: magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.ed u!helios!n025fc@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Kevin Weller) Organization: Texas A&M University, Computer Science Department Subject: Andrew without Internet? Message-Id: Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu I apologize if this seems like an incredibly silly question, but I am very much a beginner with X and Andrew. Besides, I can't find anything in the docs that states, in a nutshell, exactly what Andrew is! According to my interpretation, it is a set of X applications with a common protocol for multimedia document storage and transfer--that about right? I'm mainly interested in the word processing and graphics programs, not the mail stuff. Now the real question: Does Andrew require a machine to be connected to the internet? See, I'm not on internet (though I have access to it via campus computers), and in fact, I'm not currently on ANY network. The only reason I can run X11R4 under XENIX SysV (for 386 PC's) is the socket EMULATION driver Chain Lee wrote. Since I'm not currently interested in the networking aspects of X, I'd just like to compile those parts of Andrew that do word processing, spreadsheets, etc. I thought I configured the installation accordingly, but it seems that some source in the overhead library requires true networking support; my compile is currently stuck on overhead/util/lib/getaddr.c since my machine HAS NO INTERNET ADDRESS to get. Is there something extra I should be doing to disable network reliance in the Andrew system? Any configuring/compiling tips at all would be greatly appreciated, but if I can't make Andrew work without TCP/IP or something, then I'll just have to give up for now. I hope that won't be necessary, but I've learned to take the "you can't do that on your puny little system" response with some composure. :-( Thanx in advance! -- Kev -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Kevin L. Weller /-------+--------------------internet: n025fc@tamuts.tamu.edu | aTm | GIG 'EM, AGGIES! | CIS: 73327,1447 (but I rarely