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I am having problems installing andrew (patchlevel 10) on our Apollos
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loading stuff in overhead/class/util/lib/machdep: entry.o which
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Hi there, I'm not sure if this will be relevant to you but from what
information i have as yet, you might be able to help me -- if not please
disregard this mail. I'm looking for information on the Andrew File
System, a disributed file system developed i believe at Carnegie-Mellon
Uni., and got this(your) address from an article in netnews. I'm an
honours student in computer science at Queensland Uni. in Australia and
need the information for a seminar i have to present. The topic is
simply AFS, so its pretty broad, but its for a distributed computing
subject. I'm looking for articles here but the library does not seem to
offer much! Thus if you are the 'right' people, i was wondering if you
could send me any infor. that could be useful. It can be emailed to me :
rajiv@cs.uq.oz.au or mailed to: 					Rajiv Ram, 					Computer Science
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have questions) Date: 1 Jul 91 17:59:57 GMT From:
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Santa Clara Subject: Re: Trouble compiling/running on SunOS 4.1.1
Message-Id: <8647@auspex.auspex.com> References:
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To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
>Last problem (for today):  typescript doesn't work.  It didn't >work
before patch 10, but patch 10 at work (4.1 on a SPARCstation 1) >does
work.  The symptoms are the same as before patch 10:  The >child process
(usually /bin/csh) dies immediately (sometimes after >printing the
prompt. 
That one may be caused by the same problem that caused the first one -
the wrong "system.h" file is being installed.  4.1[.x] has a POSIX-style
job-control mechanism, and that requires that ATK applications that use
pseudo-ttys (given their tendency to fork themselves off early) to
proceed differently in dealing with controlling ttys.  Patch 10 includes
changes to do that, but they only get compiled in if POSIX_ENV is
defined; if a 4.0[.x] "system.h" is installed, POSIX_ENV won't be
defined. 
(Yes, this means you can't share binaries between SunOS 4.0[.x] machines
and SunOS 4.1[.x] machines; "typescript" and "tm" of the former won't
work on 4.1[.x] because they aren't doing the right POSIX-compliant
stuff, and the latter won't work on 4.0[.x] because it uses the run-time
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>> doindex: indexing tabs.do ...ld.so: map heap error (9) for /dev/zero
> >	I had exactly the same problem and spent about 12 hours >banging my
head against a wall until I realized that the top level >Makefile hadn't
been generated on a Sparc. 
It's less that it wasn't generated on a SPARC than that it wasn't
generated on a SunOS 4.1[.x] machine.  The stuff using the 4.1[.x]
run-time loader works on Sun-3s as well as SPARC-based machines. 
There's code in "doindex" and "runapp" that compensates for a bug in the
SunOS 4.1 run-time loader; if "sun_68k_41" or "sun_sparc_41" isn't
defined as a non-zero value, that code won't be included and the bug in
question will cause the message in question (the run-time loader doesn't
end up re-opening "/dev/zero" even though it should, and tries using the
now-closed file descriptor that it had opened when it loaded the shared
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In article <YcP_DvC00VsWIGAl9n@andrew.cmu.edu>, gk5g+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
(Gary Keim) writes: > Excerpts from misc: 29-Jun-91 Re: Strange problem,
anyone.. Chris P. > Ross@mimsy.umd. (1806) > > >  Well, as much as this
seems reasonable, I don't think it's the problem. > >  I believe I *did*
compile with RESOLVER_ENV set, but RESOLVLIB was set > > to nil, so it
didn't use libresolv.a...  It used the Nameservice stuff > > in our
libc. > > If you define RESOLVER_ENV on SunOS4.x plaforms, and you set
RESOLVLIB > to nil, you still end up using the resolver.  It may not
have been > necessary to do this but, we create our own shared resolver
library and > install it in ${BASEDIR}/lib.  With dynamic loading, we
can't have > multiple copies of the resolver getting into a single
process (runapp). > Using the shared library informs the run-time linker
that the resolver > is needed, and it is then up to ld.so to do things
right. > > If you look in andrew/atk/apps/Imakefile you'll see that we
link against > -lresolv to get the shared resolver for the SunOS4.x
platform.  There > are a few other places that link against the shared
resolver, as well. > Unfortunately, we also link regular programs with
the non-shared > resolver. > > I think that you want to #undef
RESOLVER_ENV in site.h and rebuild for > the Sun4. 
  Ok, I'll go ahead and do this.  I'll let you know if I have anymore
problems.  :-) 
> If the Sun3 you referred to is not a SunOS4.x box, that explains why
the > current configuration works on that machine-- no native dynamic
loader, > or shared resolver, getting in the way. 
  Well, the sun3 I was using was a SunOS 4.1 machine, so I don't know
why there was no problem created there.  I'll recompile with
RESOLVER_ENV undefined anyway, to avoid possible problems later. 
> Gary Keim > ATK Group 
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  Well, I don't know how much of this will be comprehendable, but I'll
try to make it clear.  I have a lab full of VAXstation 2000's, running
as diskless Xterminals off of SPARCstation servers.  These VAXen get
their boot info from a DECstation, but after that, get root, swap, and
everything else (including fonts) from one of the SPARCs.  Now, I've not
yet gotten Andrew (pl10) to install on the DECstation, so I'd like to be
able to use the ATK programs from a sun, displaying on one of the VAXen,
but don't know what I need to do to get the fonts on them.  Any help
would be appriciated.  Thanks. 
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I'm having problems compiling andrew on my sun 4/280, running sunos 4.1
Here's the death message when doing a make World: 
DIR=/X11R4.Sun4/contrib/toolkits/andrew/atk/basics/common 
[lots of rm'ing and symlinking deleted to make space] 
+ rm -f /usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk/pixelimg.do + ln -s
/f/u2/X11R4.Sun4/contrib/toolkits/andrew/atk/basics/common/pixelimg.do /
usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk /usr/local/andrew/bin/doindex -d
/usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk app.do atom.do atoml ist.do bind.do cursor.do
dataobj.do describe.do  environ.do event.do filetype.do  fontdesc.do
init.do keymap.do  keyrec.do keystate.do menulist.do message.do msg
hndlr.do  namespc.do observe.do path.do proctbl.do profile.do region.do
rm.do  u pdlist.do view.do winsys.do graphic.do pixelimg.do doindex:
indexing app.do ...dlopen: stub interception failed *** Abort make:
Fatal error: Command failed for target `install.time' Current working
directory /X11R4.Sun4/contrib/toolkits/andrew/atk/basics/common 
[ Cascaded make error messages deleted ] 
Does anyone have any ideas about what's going on, or what I'm doing wrong? 
Ben -- Benjamin Fried ben@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu				rutgers!columbia!ben
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Hey all, 
Well, I got andrew working for the first time yesterday, and now I have
some questions. First of all, durring the installations in the xmkfond
directory I had a problem with openwin.csh not being executable. I
changed that and things built ok. 
The set up was this: machine: sparc 1+ operating system: 4.1.1 both
openwindows and X11r4 are available on this machine. In site.h the
following are set: 	#define OPENWINDOWS_ENV 1 	#undef RESOLVER_ENV
	#define DEFAULT_ANDREWDIR_ENV /home/xwin/andrew 	#define ODA_ENV 1
	#define ISO80_FONTS_ENV 1 	#undef AMS_ENV In site.mcr:
	BASEDIR=/home/xwin/andrew 	IMAKE=/home/X11src/R4/mit/config/imake
	XMAKEDEPEND=/home/X11src/R4/mit/util/makedepend/makedepend
	RESOLVELIB=/usr/liblibresolv.a (which I realize I don't need, but the
			  	        build worked) 
Now, I finished the build, and tried to play a little. I can edit things
using ez, but switching to italics doesn't seem to work, and doing a
preview doesn't work. I then tried to convert the document to post
script, and it seems that there is a bunch of stuff missing for doing
this. I also don't know how to set up printing to work, but as we have
an a-typical printer set up, I doubt if this will work anyway. 
Does anyone know what I have to build in to get the ez to ps to work?
(and note that the introductory help page tells you to look at the ez-ps
help page, but this doesn't exist. The real help page is ezps) 
Also any more info on just what is available here, and how to do things
like switching fonts etc. would be welcome. 
Thanks. eric vampyre@milton.u.washington.edu ehwd@uorpas.bitnet
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       Trying hard to install ATK patch 10 on HP9000/425t under hpux
7.05        --------------------------------------------------- 
    I'am currently trying to install Andrew tools on my HP workstations
and have several problems. I don't know if i am special or if nobody
tried yet to do this but it is not that easy. (I tried several months
ago with an older version but gave up after a few days) 
    First of all, some Imakefile contain #ifdef statements between shell
commands, cpp generates blank lines for these statements and make hates
this. I remember it was the same at the first try. So, is my cpp or make
different from others or is there a hidden flag to change this ? The
obvious solution is to enclose the whole target+statements inside the
#ifdef. 
    Second, in the file config/hp300/system.mcr, there is a line : 
      STD_DEFINES = +Nd4000 +Ns3000 -W p,-H500000  -W2,-x
-D_CLASSIC_TYPES                                                        
                                       ------     and my compiler
(actually, the HP one) has never heard about an option like -W2,-x. I
suppose that the purpose is to give the -x option to ld, i change this
to 
      STD_DEFINES = +Nd4000 +Ns3000 -W p,-H500000  -W l,-x -D_CLASSIC_TYPES 
    makedepend doesn't like very much this kind of flags, for example : 
        ../../../.././config/depend.csh /sic/X11/bin/makedepend
/sic/andrew/bin/class         "-I.  -I/sic/andrew/include/atk
-I/sic/andrew/include -I//usr/include/X11" "+Nd4000 +Ns3000 -W
p,-H500000  -W l,-x -D_CLASSIC_TYPES " *.ch not found
/sic/X11/bin/makedepend:  ignoring option -W /sic/X11/bin/makedepend: 
ignoring option -W /sic/X11/bin/makedepend:  cannot open "+Nd4000"
/sic/X11/bin/makedepend:  cannot open "+Ns3000" /sic/X11/bin/makedepend:
 cannot open "p,-H500000" /sic/X11/bin/makedepend:  cannot open "l,-x"
/sic/X11/bin/makedepend:  doload.c includes
/sic/andrew/include/andrewos.h morethan once! 
   but it can go on. 
  until... : 
        cc -c -I. -I../lib -I../machdep/machine -I. +O1
-I/sic/andrew/include/atk -I/sic/andrew/include -I//usr/include/X11
+Nd4000 +Ns3000 -W p,-H500000  -W l,-x -D_CLASSIC_TYPES  testobj.c      
  /sic/andrew/bin/makedo -g -b ../cmd -d /sic/andrew/lib -o testobj.do  
      testobj.o doindex: indexing testobj.do ...Bus error (core dumped)
*** Error code 138 
Stop. *** Error code 1 etc....