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What is the magic needed to get the correct fonts and font aliases setup
for Andrew to display properly when displaying on a Macintosh running
Apple Mac X[An Andrew ToolKit view (a footnote) was included here, but
could not be displayed.] X11 window server?

--Dwight D. McKay, Purdue University, Department of Biological Sciences
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\begindata{text,539765760}
\textdsversion{12}
\template{messages}
We have a few programs here that manually use queuemail to mail a document
that is an ATK datastream (yeah, someday we will switch to MIME).  A file
might look something like this:


\example{To: tinglett+

From: Test User

Subject: This is a test.


\\begindata\{text,537989376\}

\\textdsversion\{12\}

\\template\{default\}

This is a \\bold\{test\} message that contains some \\italic\{fonts\}.



\\chapter\{This is only a test.


\}\\enddata\{text,537989376\}

}
and we would run \bold{queuemail -f myfile tinglett} to mail this.  The
mail is delivered just fine and looks great in \italic{messages}.  However,
if you attempt to print or forward the mail, the printed or forwarded piece
of mail looks like the above example--that is, you can see the datastream!
 I've tried explicitly using \bold{text822} as a dataobject with no
success.  What's wrong here?  Do we need a special header to indicate that
it is a datastream?


-todd inglett

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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 3-Feb-94 How do 
I "queuemail" an ATK.. Todd Inglett@vnet.IBM.CO (882+0)}


\quotation{The mail is delivered just fine and looks great in 
\italic{messages}.  However, if you attempt to print or forward the mail, 
the printed or forwarded piece of mail looks like the above example--that 
is, you can see the datastream!

}
Do you add the following headers?

\smaller{\bold{
X-Andrew-Message-Size}: 882+0

}\smaller{\bold{Content-Type}: X-BE2; 12

}\smaller{\bold{If-Type-Unsupported}: send

}
I suspect that the important one is the Content-Type.


-Rob

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Yep, the secret is the Content-Type header.  Too easy!

-todd inglett

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Cc: 

 I have been trying to compile Andrew Toolkit in HP UX 9.0 on HP Model
 715/50 computer (apollo). I made necessry change in site.mcr file. But
 make World comes out with an error as:

 make syntax error in line 416.

 Can you guys help me overcoming this difficulties.

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Subject: Re:  Andrew compilation error in HP UX 9.0

As described in the O'Reilly - X Window System Administrators Guide -
this is a bug du to your implementation of 'cpp', try to use
that of the MIT-Implementation of X11.
(I don't know actually the path, try a 'find' ;-).

Hope this helps.
c u
	Chris Wiersch
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Subject: RFC1342 in messages

There exists an RFC describing how to represent Non-ASCII text in mail
<bold>headers</bold> (RFC1342).<nl>
<nl>
Is there any work going on to implement this into messages/AMS or could
anyone point out where to put in code to do this. I.e. I'd like to see
headers sent as:<nl>
<nl>
<italic><leftindent>Subject: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Svenska bokst=3DE4ver i
datorpost?=3D</leftindent></italic><nl>
be viewed as<nl>
<italic><leftindent>Subject: Svenska bokst=E4ver i datorpost<nl>
<nl>
</leftindent></italic>Of course, the reverse translation, i.e. when sending
mail, should preferably work too.<nl>
I tried to hack this in, but failed. I probably did it at the wrong place.
AMS is somewhat opaque an untrained hacker like me.<nl>
--------------------------------------------------------------------<nl>
Christer Bern=E9rus, SM6FBQ		!E-mail: bernerus@cs.chalmers.se<nl>
Chalmers University of Technology	! Phone: +46 31 7721036<nl>
Department of Computing Science<nl>
S-412 96 Gothenburg, SWEDEN	<nl>
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 21-Feb-94 
RFC1342 in messages Christer Bernerus@cs.cha (827+0)}


\quotation{Is there any work going on to implement this into messages/AMS 
or could anyone point out where to put in code to do this. I.e. I'd like to 
see headers sent as:

}
We haven't made any plans to implement this.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 21-Feb-94 
RFC1342 in messages Christer Bernerus@cs.cha (827+0)}


\quotation{I tried to hack this in, but failed. I probably did it at the 
wrong place. AMS is somewhat opaque an untrained hacker like me.

}
It's pretty opaque period :-(  It looks to me like the easiest thing to do 
is implement a library which has calls to encode headers and label them 
with a particular charset, and decode and report the charset.  Then each 
client would need to be modified to call these functions and do the right 
thing.  For displaying decoded headers the clients would need to be 
modified anyway to deal with charset issues.  Of course I could be missing 
something pretty major if multiple charsets are allowed in a single 
header...


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Consortium

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Beak: is Not

Multiple charsets are allowed in a single header.

Last time I looked at the MIME support, I came to the conclusion that
the font subsystem needs to have a 'charset' attribute added to font
names.

-- 
_.John G. Myers		Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU
			LoseNet:  ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up

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Are there system.mcr files for building andrew on solaris?  The FAQ's and
core distribution do not seem to indicate so.

Is it possible to just get ez and all associated software (ezprint,
ez2ps, ez2ascii) without the rest of andrew?  It also doesn't seem
so, with the runapp setup.

Is there an ez2tex or ez2latex program?

Thanks,

Kevin Otto
Dept. of Mech. Eng.
MIT

p.s.:
I tried running the sunos4.1 binaries on solaris 2.3.  I defined
the ANDREWDIR and other variables per the instructions, and it
seems to work partially.  ez comes up, for example, but it doesn't
have fully functionality (print does't work, etc.).  ezprint also
fails:

 doload: Error finding entry point of package "/usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk/
 ezprinta.do" - ld.so.1: ezprint: fatal: dlsym: can't find symbol ezprinta
 pp__GetClassInfo
 runapp: Error loading the application ezprintapp.

The file is there, so it seems to be some sort of incompatibility with
ld.so?  hmm.


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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 23-Feb-94 andrew on solaris
Kevin N. Otto@design.MIT (952)

> Are there system.mcr files for building andrew on solaris?  The FAQ's
> and core distribution do not seem to indicate so.

Release 6.2 coming up in a couple of months should have some chance of
working with some version of solaris 2.x.  But there have been a number
of bugs in the solaris dynamic loading which may prevent ATK from
working under some versions.


Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 23-Feb-94 andrew on solaris
Kevin N. Otto@design.MIT (952)

> Is it possible to just get ez and all associated software (ezprint,
> ez2ps, ez2ascii) without the rest of andrew?  It also doesn't seem
> so, with the runapp setup.

See the README.ez.  (It may be somewhat out of date in the last public
release, I'm not sure.)  It can be obtained via anonymous ftp to
emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu in the top level.  It is possible to avoid
compiling much of ATK my changing the site.h file, e.g.:

#undef MK_BLD_BLKS	
#undef MK_BASIC_UTILS
#undef MK_BASIC_INSETS
#undef MK_HELP
/* #undef MK_TEXT_EXT you probably actually do want MK_TEXT_EXT, this
gets you the C editing modes along with
other languages and the style editor lookz */
#undef MK_AUTHORING
#undef MK_AUX_UTILS
#undef MK_AUX_INSETS
#undef MK_EXAMPLES
#undef MK_METAMAIL
#undef MK_JPEG
#undef MK_TIFF
#undef AMS_ENV
#undef CONTRIB_ENV

This should avoid compiling nearly everything which is optional.

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 23-Feb-94 andrew on solaris
Kevin N. Otto@design.MIT (952)

Is there an ez2tex or ez2latex program?

No, I'm afraid not.  Some students working under Bill Cattey at mit have
been working on conversions to and from rtf, but aside from that the
only available conversions are to troff and postscript via troff.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium




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I am trying to get the binary Linux version of Andrew going. I gather it
is based on a beta version of 6.1.

I have two problems with messages. Firstly when I start it it complains
that it can't read ~/Mailbox. 

Secondly when I go to send a mail message it says the reciepient is
not valid: even if the recipient is myself or root.

I've tried setting all the AndrewSetup things that seem relevant and
that are documented in the help. I can give more information to
anyone who thinks they might be able to help. The Linux system is the
debian beta distribution. The mail seems very simple and standard.

I found a program called eatmail and it says "can't copy mail from
/usr/spool/mail/smart to ~/Mailbox". I can't see why not.

Another problem is that the "bigger" font is horrible and blocky and
that probably means I need to get some extra font stuff from somewhere.

Any advice appreciated .. I said I'd talk about Andrew at a local
Linux meeting and I'd like to get the messages program going :-).

Bob Smart
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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 24-Feb-94 messages problem on
Linux v.. Bob Smart@mel.dit.csiro. (1016)

> I have two problems with messages. Firstly when I start it it complains
> that it can't read ~/Mailbox. 

Hmm, it should get created when you run messages.

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 24-Feb-94 messages problem on
Linux v.. Bob Smart@mel.dit.csiro. (1016)

> Secondly when I go to send a mail message it says the reciepient is not
> valid: even if the recipient is myself or root.

This is a known bug, we think it may be fixed in our latest sources.  We
don't have a linux machine though so we can't test it ourselves.  The
latest sources should be released within a couple months.

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Linux v.. Bob Smart@mel.dit.csiro. (1016)


> I found a program called eatmail and it says "can't copy mail from
> /usr/spool/mail/smart to ~/Mailbox". I can't see why not.

I don't know why this would be.  I can't find where this message is
coming from in our eatmail.c.  You shouldn't need eatmail, if AMS was
compiled without RUN_AMDS_ENV defined messages should be able to read
your mail in from /usr/spool/mail/smart.  (Note though that it will read
ALL your mail out of there and into an AMS mail folder.)

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 24-Feb-94 messages problem on
Linux v.. Bob Smart@mel.dit.csiro. (1016)

> Another problem is that the "bigger" font is horrible and blocky and
> that probably means I need to get some extra font stuff from somewhere.

You might be able to turn off font scaling in the X server.  I suppose
ATK could be hacked to provide a option to avoid using scaled fonts, but
this would preclude using Type1 or Speedo fonts as well.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium

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Andrew Ryan@andre (1793)


> > I found a program called eatmail and it says "can't copy mail from
> > /usr/spool/mail/smart to ~/Mailbox". I can't see why not.


This error message usually indicates that the local mail program is
running with the "set hold" user option.  Setting "unset hold" in a
~/.mailrc file should fix this.

-Bob
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\quotation{I don't know why this would be.  I can't find where this message is

}\quotation{coming from in our eatmail.c.  You shouldn't need eatmail, if AMS 
was

}\quotation{compiled without RUN_AMDS_ENV defined messages should be able to 
read

}\quotation{your mail in from /usr/spool/mail/smart.}


You need to create a $(HOME)/.mailrc and add this line:


unset hold


.. or


set nohold


Gary Keim

Visix Software

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I run Andrew under Solaris. 
(I co-authored the port to it.) 

The problem I had running SunOS binaries under Solaris 2.1 was that the
binary compatibility library did not support the old SunOS libdl which
dynamically loaded a.out format files. 

My guess is that the much touted improvements to binary compatibility
under Solaris 2.3 don't include libdl with a.out.  **ANY** use of ATK
that requires dynamic object loading therefore fails. 

Someone said that AUIS version 6.2 will run under some versions of
Solaris.  Let me say what exactly the problem is: 

The libdl under Solaris 2.1 had a bug that broke dynamic loading for
large applications like AUIS.  That is fixed in Solaris 2.2 and later. 
Since you are running Solaris 2.3, I expect you will have ABSOLUTELY NO
TROUBLE running the 6.2 version of AUIS. 

-wdc 
 
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Has anyone ever encountered this weirdness?


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from mail: 24-Feb-94 ATK defaults Larry Jones
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\quotation{Todd, well I am pretty close to having AMS installed here in
abs.endicott.ibm.com

}\quotation{but one of the differences I am seeing between rochester and
abs is the defaults

}\quotation{which are enabled when I run messages. For instance, the "check
recipients" button

}\quotation{under set options by default is on, but when I try to use it
when sending a message

}\quotation{the the check recipients button is not selectable. If I go back
to options and turn it

}\quotation{on, then it is enabled when I am sending a message. Do you know
what I am doing

}\quotation{wrong?

}

-todd inglett

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