Return-Path: Received: from RI.CMU.EDU by ux3.sp.cs.cmu.edu id aa14690; 23 Mar 99 11:25 EST Received: from SMTP1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU by RI.CMU.EDU id aa16196; 23 Mar 99 11:24:51 EST Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (HOBART.CCBI.CMU.EDU [128.2.249.87]) by smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA14392; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:24:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36F7C0F6.BE423CA8@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:27:34 -0500 From: Rob Mason X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Mitchell CC: Chuck Rosenberg , danieln+@cs.cmu.edu, mitchell+@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Re: fMRI data/ sentences References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7A2707977EA0DC8B3010B33A" X-UIDL: 0f8300baef62e5245ed38d033aac33c3 Tom---- I'll answer each of your questions in turn. (1) > Is it easy for you to provide us the list of specific sentences and > questions given to subject 02882? Well, yes it's easy, but in an easily digestable format isn't so easy. What I'll do is attach two files. The frst is a list of all 40 sentences used in the expt, they are grouped by condition (without questions). So the first ten sentences are all from condition 1 in the order that they appear in within that condition, but in order to get the actual value of s_n you'd have to look match with the condition number in the overall set. The second file is the actual stimulus set used in the experiment. This contains the sentences in order along with questions. The drawback to this format is that it also contains all the COGLAB codes which are unnecessary for your purpose. I'm sorry that there is no inbetween version (believe me I wish I had one). (2) > So something about the stimuli is making the time series very different > for each sentence, despite the fact that the voxel correlations remain > intact. If this is a pattern that varies by condition then the conclusion is that it is due to the experimental manipulation, however I take it that is not the case. If the variation in the time course is not correlated to the conditions, then I fear that the question will be vary difficult to answer. Within each condition the syntax of the sentences is exact but nothing else is. There are too many other linguistic variables that could cause variation (e.g., lexical frequency of actor/patient nouns are not controlled, theta role recipiants could have been animate/inanimate, some sentences had location cues some did not, etc.). As of yet we don't have a good handle on what linguistic variables should have localized (in the brain) effects and which might have diffuse effects so it is unclear where to start if you want to look at specific factors. (3) > One question this raises is "if the subject is given the same sentence > twice, how repeatable are the voxel time series?" Behaviorally (classic reading time measures), reading appears to be very different when a sentence is repeated (at least in isolation). It would be very interesting if voxel time series were repeatable for identical sentences. But if the activity of a voxel is in a sense probablistic, you would need many repeatitions of a sentence to get a stable repeatable time series. By then I have no doubt that the reading process would be very different than it was on the first iteration. (4) > Can you tell me whether sentences were ever repeated to a subject? No senetences were repeated. There was occasionally a verb which was used in more than one sentence, sometimes even across conditions (e.g., "called"). That might be a place to look, but I doubt that a voxel's time course could be verb specific (although I know some linguists who would love that idea). Sorry that was longer than I expected. Let me know if anything else comes up. rob. -- --------------------------------- Robert A. Mason Center for Cognitive Brain Imaging Department of Psychology Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA 15213 e-mail: rmason@andrew.cmu.edu phone: (412) 268-2402 fax: (412) 268-2804 http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/rmason/index.html