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From: viren@world2u.com (Viren Jain)
Subject: Re: ---<Definitions of consiousness>---
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On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:18:40 GMT, AIR1@ping.be (Stephan Verbeeck)
wrote:
:A chicken-and-egg paradox?  With alive being the egg and conscious
:being the chicken or the other way around ;-D  I don't wont to shatter
:another illusion of yours but now that we are at it lets solve this
:riddle in a permanent way for you.  There is not "chicken-and-egg
:paradox" since the egg is the chicken and the chicken is the egg.
:None of them came first since they are one and the same thing being
:the species KFC :-)   And in the same why there is no
:life-conscioussness paradox since they are in fact the SAME thing.
:What is by the way how things started in this thread.  Me claiming
:that live is conscious and others not being very happy about that
:because they think plants and even single complex molecules are alive
:without that they can tell me WHY they think so.  The fact is that
:they have stored wrong information and never became aware of it by
:analyzing it but still they insist on it being correct.  Pffff...
:humans...

 This significantly cleared things up for me. So, to put into
'programming' terms if you will - if life then conciousness, and if
conciousness then life? Are both of these 'binary' factors, or can
entities have various levels of conciousness and life (more an issue
for the former). I agree with you on most levels of your conjectures,
and if life truly is conciousness and vice a versa, than plants really
are nothing more than complex chemical reactions + evolution from what
you seem to be saying :}
 -Viren Jain-
 -"The Robot Gods Are Coming This Way, and I want to Go With Them"-
 -viren@world2u.com
