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From: pindor@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor)
Subject: Re: FIRST order?
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In article <3u1gab$f9f@saba.info.ucla.edu>,
Michael Zeleny <zeleny@oak.math.ucla.edu> wrote:
>pindor@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
>>Michael Zeleny <zeleny@oak.math.ucla.edu> wrote:
>
>>................
>>>The trouble with your proposed resolution is that I do not regard your
>>>stance as merely unacceptable, but as both factually and morally wrong.
>>                                                          ^^^^^^^
>>Says who?
>
>It makes no difference who says it, unless you are a moral relativist,
>in which case it still makes no difference.
>
I can see two possible interpretations of your reply:
1. You think that people should take note of your moral judgements (arrogance 
   at best since private moral preferences are not under discussion here).
2. You are ducking the question since you realized that the statement above
   made you look silly.
Did I miss something? (actually it may very well be 1+2).
So do you have guts to give a straight reply to the question? (You know, like
"me", "Pope", "Ayatollah X", "Holy Script Y", etc.). You are not ashamed and/or
uncertain of the source of your moral judgements, are you? 
If you do not want other people to ask you about it, don't preach to them 
what is moral and/or what is not.
 
Andrzej

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