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From: jqb@netcom.com (Jim Balter)
Subject: Re: Putnam reviews Penrose.
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In article <3tmk8u$mlc@bell.maths.tcd.ie>,
Timothy Murphy <tim@maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
>Claude Chaunier <cchaunie@bat710.univ-lyon1.fr> writes:
>
>>You did not notice that the Turing machine with a random element
>>includes the universe in some Penrose's small improvement of his
>>argument. 
>
>I was only expressing the opinion that this notion
>of a Turing machine with a random element added
>does not seem to me to be central to Penrose' book.
>But if it does have a special significance for you
>I would not dispute that.
>
>>Be not hurted too much by what I say, but be enough please.
>
>I don't find your comments hurtful.
>At least you seem to be speaking of the same book that I read.
>What I find disturbing is postings which appear to me
>to give a completely false picture of Penrose' book,
>as though he were some kind of anti-AI ranter,
>rather like an American evangelist denouncing adultery
>(or Dr Paisley denouncing papists) --
>while I find his book on the contrary to be 
>an extraordinarily dense web of intricate arguments.

Would you like to offer a news article number in which someone painted
Penrose's book this way, you hypocrit you?

Meanwhile, of course, you manage to avoid the *substance* of Claude's remarks
by doing your nanny thing (we must all be polite and not paint false pictures,
boys and girls).
-- 
<J Q B>

