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Subject: Re: Penrose and Searle (was Re: Roger Penrose's fixed ideas)
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In article <CzuAD4.4K6@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> jeff@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) writes:
>In general, I don't think criteria that consider more than externally
>visible behavior should be ruled out.  When it comes to computers,
>we might look at program listings, for instance.

I agree.
That, of course, does make it a moving target, though.  (Not that that is
evidence for or against doing it).

I was just thinking this morning, how obvious some transvestites are on
the streets of Brighton... (which, of course, is not unrelated to the
aim of the original TT).  I then realised that, the main reason that
they fail the woman/man TT, with me as the judge, is because of me
having seen Danny dela Rue, Dame Edna Everage, et al on the television
over the years, and thus having built up a database of new distinctions
to look for that 'give them away'.

I'm sure something similar will happen with intelligence:
Just as a machine is beginning to fool the judges, and the details of
its working are released for public scrutiny, we will know what
idosynchracies to look out, to prevent *that* machine from
fooling the judges next time.
-- 

Malcolm SHUTE.         (The AM Mollusc:   v_@_ )        Disclaimer: all
