From newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!torn!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!nntp.msstate.edu!memstvx1!langston Wed Sep 16 21:22:27 EDT 1992
Article 6836 of comp.ai.philosophy:
Path: newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!torn!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!nntp.msstate.edu!memstvx1!langston
>From: langston@memstvx1.memst.edu (Mark C. Langston)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: Marvin Minsky's Conscious Machines
Message-ID: <1992Sep9.092534.3229@memstvx1.memst.edu>
Date: 9 Sep 92 09:25:34 -0600
References: <iordonez.714442640@academ01> <86891@netnews.upenn.edu> <iordonez.715293767@academ01> <1992Sep9.025119.15500@uwm.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University
Lines: 29

In article <1992Sep9.025119.15500@uwm.edu>, markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
> In article <iordonez.715293767@academ01> iordonez@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Ivan Ordonez-Reinoso) writes:
>>>>P: This sentence is not true.
>>
>>I don't know if this is supposed to prove that sentence P is formalizable,
>>but anyway please note that in my original post I claimed that P is not
>>formalizable because it contains a "not TRUE" part, and not because it
>>is self referent. The concept "truth" is not formalizable.
> 
> This sentence implies that the concept of "truth" is irrelevent and immaterial
> regarding the issue of logical paradox and that only the existence of
> self-reference and implication matter.


I thought I extracted this file from the net, but apparently my VAX didn't have
lunch that day, and decided to eat it.  Could someone either email me a copy
of the original text in full, or perhaps repost it?  A couple of people on
campus would really like to read it.

(Marvin?  can you help?)



-- 
+--------8<------Cut Here------8<------Cut Here------8<------Cut Here---------+
  Mark C. Langston   |  "Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny."                 
  Psychology Dept.   |  "Always listen to experts.  They'll tell you what can't
  Memphis State U.   |     be done, and why.  Then do it."                      
      "Pftph!"       |           -From the notebooks of Lazarus Long         


