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>From: Rick.Horowitz@launchpad.unc.edu (Rick Horowitz)
Subject: RFD: sci.philosophy.language (REPOST)
Message-ID: <1992Nov14.114224.2532@samba.oit.unc.edu>
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Keywords: philosophy of language, new group, newgroup, POL
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Darn!  I always forget that you can't just do C-x C-c from UNC like
you can in the editor at CSUF.  You have to do C-x C-f to save first.
Therefore I have accidentally sent a null article with the same title
as this.  What was supposed to appear was:
 
Sorry I can't make this part of the normal thread on the topic, but
California State Trade Scho...er, California State University, Fresno,
doesn't support student use of computers for anything other than
e-mail.  But that's another story...
 
Anyway, I want to respond to some of the discussion coming up about
my recommendation for a group called sci.philosophy.language.
 
1)      Some people have said things like: "I too would be interested
        such a group.  I'm particularly interested in 'psychological
        and computational aspects of language'."  What I don't
        understand is: Why wouldn't these things belong under
        sci.lang, comp.ai.philosophy, or even sci.philosophy.tech?
        Certainly there might be ways of talking about these that
        belong in sci.philosophy.language, but my reading of the
        comments indicates to me that the way the post was intended,
        it's something less philosophical that they were interested
        in.  (But maybe I'm wrong; I often am.)
 
2)      Ken Miner worries about cross-posting and, also, says that:
        "[T]o a linguist today, philosophy of language is implicit
        in the theories of language that have been and are being
        constructed...."
 
        a)     I agree that cross-posts could be a problem.  Maybe
               we could somehow understand that people who want
               to discuss topics belonging in sci.philosophy.language
               will read sci.philosophy.language, and just not do
               the cross-posting as much.  (?)
        b)     My idea of calling for the new group is to provide a
               forum where the POL issues "implicit in the theories"
               might be made EXplicit and discussed.
 
3)      There are many ideas I have which don't seem to be specifically
        "linguistic", but are more likely to fit under the rubric of
        "philosophy."  I'm hoping that a POL group will be populated
        by at least a significant number of philosophers, people I may
        one day even know, study with, consider peers and colleagues.
        Since I hope to spend much of my time doing philosophy of
        language/mind (agreeing with Searle at least on the relation
        between the two), I'm looking for a forum in which issues of
        interest to people in that area will be explicitly discussed.
        I also hoped that, as I've mentioned before, the mere NAME sci.
        philosophy.language will attract more people working in that
        area, so that I can learn who they are and who is doing the
        most interesting stuff.  Among other things, I'm going to be
        graduating this semester and so far have not decided where I
        might want to go for grad work.  (Both Ohio State and Miami
        have been recommended to me---I don't know WHY Miami was
        recommended.  But I liked Terry Winant's reasons for why I
        should go to Ohio.)
 
Anyway, that's what I wanted to add to what I read tonight of the
discussion in sci.lang.
 
If e-mailing comments, please use my csufresno address if possible.
It's the one service our university HASN'T figured out how NOT to
support and I like getting my mail there rather than UNC because of
the editor.
 
 
Rick Horowitz     CSUF, Philosophy     rhorowit@mondrian.csufresno.edu
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