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>From: eliot@ocf.berkeley.edu (Eliot Handelman)
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Subject: A bas les esperances! (Re: Intelligence, awareness, and esthetics)
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Date: 30 Apr 92 08:31:16 GMT
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In article <1992Apr22.122656.1303@nuscc.nus.sg> smoliar@iss.nus.sg (stephen smoliar) writes:


>            We tend to approach our aesthetic experiences with expectations
>(just like everything else in the world 

We've had this one out before ... many times before ... but I'd like to
report that I went by the "Whole Life Expo" in San Francisco 
this past weekend, where I accumulated the literature of the
so-cfalled "Anstendig Institute" of SF, the closest thing to a "whole
earth" approach to music theory that I've yet come across (and I tend
not to search this kind of thing out). En bref, they feel that
"having expectations" of ANY sort is a very bad thing, is a sloppy
habit that must be done away with if one is to experience the
full range of "feeling" (as they say) available in so-called "music"
(which music is suggested by victorian lithographs of the great ones,
Tschaikovsky et al, Gleason unmentioned though doubtlessd included in 
spirit -- They also feel that CD's fail to transmit relevant "vibrations"
wherewith this "feeling" can be experienced. They recommend listening
to music in a deeply relaxed state a la the "let it flow" of pscyhedelia
-- and guess what -- as far as this latter goes, THEY'VE GOT A POINT.
It's well worthwhile trying out music in this way, just to discover
the "raw" aesthtetic -- the bodily sensation involved. 

As Nietzsche points out -- "l'art pour l'art: the virtuoso
croaking of shivering frogs in their despairing swamp: -- all the
rest is added by love."

Love! love! love! (J. Lennon)

Yes, Stephen: that's what's missing in your theory -- LOVE.

Love is all you need.

I needed half a year of California Bay Area to understand that.

Well, gotta get back to the hot tubs.


