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>From: geb@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
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In article <1991Nov24.224724.2149@arizona.edu> bill@NSMA.AriZonA.EdU (Bill Skaggs) writes:
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>  The answer is quite simple.  Any computer interacting with the
>world outside the machine is going to need symbols for things
>outside the machine.  For example, a computer manipulating a
>robot arm will have symbols for the parts of the arm and their
>positions.  A computer playing chess will have symbols for the

Not true.  Analog computers do not have symbols.  Neural
network paradigms do not need symbols.  Much biologic
computation (e.g. animals) is not symbolic.


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