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Article 1392 of comp.ai.philosophy:
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>From: cii4795@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Rob Koester)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: AI
Keywords: ai,organic,inorganic,philosophy,artificial intelligence
Message-ID: <1991Nov18.190910.27713@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>
Date: 18 Nov 91 19:09:10 GMT
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In article <73NiBB2w164w@elrond.toppoint.de> freitag@elrond.toppoint.de (Claus Schoenleber) writes:
>maione@ai.toronto.edu (Ian Christopher Maione) writes:
>> [some lines vanished...]  In addition, even a simulation of the brain on
>> a digital computer is impossible if quantum level effects are in any way
>> significantly involved in its operation (see Roger Penrose, "The Emperor's
>> New Mind").
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ian
>
>Why? There are possible ways to get quantum level effects even on a simulation.
>(or simulate them...)
>
>Regards, Claus.
>
>
>Claus Schoenleber       freitag@elrond.toppoint.de
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Being fairly new to the concept of artificial intelligence I have a
question regarding the philosophies that you have been discussing here.
You have written about a number of concepts relating to ai including
language, sight, thought process, etc..  What, specifically, would you
consider a sucess in this line of research?  Would persons be satisfied
with a "being" that only could sucessfully perform one of these
functions, or would it need to be able to have complete "freedom of
thought" (for lack of a better term)?  
Just curious!

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