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>From: zeleny@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
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Subject: Re: Daniel Dennett (was Re: Commenting on the pos
Message-ID: <1991Nov18.154537.5578@husc3.harvard.edu>
Date: 18 Nov 91 20:45:36 GMT
References: <1991Nov15.160741.5495@husc3.harvard.edu> <11749@star.cs.vu.nl> <1991Nov18.145812.5577@husc3.harvard.edu>
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In article <1991Nov18.145812.5577@husc3.harvard.edu> I write:

>In article <11749@star.cs.vu.nl> 
>peter@cs.vu.nl (Grunwald PD) writes:

>>In article <1991Nov15.160741.5495@husc3.harvard.edu>, 
>>zeleny@walsh.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny) writes:

MZ:
>>> My guideline is very simple: if you see someone offer a reductive argument
>>> purporting to explain the properties of mind, such as consciousness,
>>> cognition, and intentionality, in terms of the alleged computational
>>> properties of the brain, you may conclude that he is a charlatan or an
>>> ignoramus.  This conclusion might be justified historically, by observing

GPD:
>>So Alan Turing in his 1950 paper 'Can Machines Think' was  charlatan or
>>ignoramus? 

MZ:
>Both.  An imitation, however good, is still an imitation.

>GPD:
>>Come on...

MZ:
>Appeals to eminent authority fail to impress me. Defend the Turing Thesis.
                                                                    ^^^^^^

Of course, I meant the thesis of the adequacy of the Turing Test, as
defended in the above article, rather than the Church-Turing Thesis, first
formulated by Church in his 1935 "An Unsolvable Problem of Elementary
Number Theory".


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