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>From: millerjx@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Justin W. Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: AI
Keywords: ai,organic,inorganic,philosophy,artificial intelligence
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Date: 17 Nov 91 17:42:07 GMT
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In article <73NiBB2w164w@elrond.toppoint.de> freitag@elrond.toppoint.de (Claus Schoenleber) writes:
>maione@ai.toronto.edu (Ian Christopher Maione) writes:
>> [some lines vanished...]  In addition, even a simulation of the brain on
>> a digital computer is impossible if quantum level effects are in any way
>> significantly involved in its operation (see Roger Penrose, "The Emperor's
>> New Mind").
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ian
>
>Why? There are possible ways to get quantum level effects even on a simulation.
>(or simulate them...)
>
>Regards, Claus.
>
>
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That's exactly what I was saying earlier in the thread. Simulations can be made
using cause/effect (see earlier post). The quantum aspects need not be directly
created as they would be the same if they were simulated-- by reproducing AI
using apparent evidence.
-justin   millerjx@ucunix.san.uc.edu


