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Article 1297 of comp.ai.philosophy:
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>From: kla!zardoz@sun.com (Phillip Wayne)
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Subject: Re: MIND, BRAIN, CONCIOUSNESS
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Date: 11 Nov 91 18:22:21 GMT
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In article <37577@shamash.cdc.com> map@svl.cdc.com writes:
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>This Zen master said that "brain happens to consciousness," which
>implies that consciousness came first, then the brain.  The proper
>view is that both mind and consciousness arise from the nature of
>the brain (and of the rest of the nervous system).
>

This view, to be restated, is "I know what mind is; I know what consciousness
is; I know that they are only chemical reactions"

Mark is perfectly entitled to whatever view he holds. However, to then say:

>The concept of consciousness as such can't be defined (except

seems to imply that he doesn't know what consciousness is. Consciousness is
a buzzword. If you can't define it, that's ok. But don't try to prove any-
thing about what you can't define. That's religion, not science.

Unless this is the "I don't know what it is, but I know it when I see it"
school of thought.

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