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>From: freitag@elrond.toppoint.de (Claus Schoenleber)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: MIND, BRAIN, CONCIOUSNESS
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Date: 11 Nov 91 09:04:02 GMT
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las@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu writes:

> Having been trained as a mathematician I feel very inclined
> to ask for a defenition of what is meant by the following terms:
> 
> a) mind
> b) brain
> c) conciousness.
> 
> I once asked a Zen master this question. First he laughed at me, and
> then he said:
> 
> "Brain happens to conciousness. Mind happens to brain after brain is
> happening to conciousness". I smiled and thanked him. you can 
> imagine how I felt.  Does this make sense to any of you? I would 
> appreciate an  honest reply. I know that Zen masters are notorious
> for not making sense.


brain and consciousness are the two sides of the same coin, and mind
is the edge. You may know the statement "Cogito ergo sum", but there
is no difference (in my eyes) to "Sum ergo cogito".

Regards, Claus.

p.s.: Apart from this there is an old cybernetic definition of "mind":
                - What's mind?
                - Not the matter!
                - What's matter?
                - Never mind!


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