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From: smh@Franz.COM (Steve Haflich)
Subject: Re: Lisp considered too hard
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In article <aldersonD9rMA3.5Hs@netcom.com> alderson@netcom.com (Richard M. Alderson III) writes:

   In article <3r20a2$mp@Yost.com> yost@Yost.com (Dave Yost) writes:

   >Perhaps someone could do a survey people who still remember what they went
   >through to transition from C to Lisp and collect a list of things they found
   >difficult or hard to get used to.

I would love to help, but C did not yet exist when many of us made the
transition from C to Lisp.  I do believe knowledge of Lisp did not
hinder my acquisition of C.

   Or whatever language(s) you knew prior to learning Lisp; some of us still don't
   know C well enough to generate it, though we may be able to read it.

C aside, I have still not been able to learn C++ well enough to
generate it.  The fundamental concepts underlying C++ cleverly avoid
any number of fundamental non-problems, but the bizarre lexography
mostly keeps that cleverness hidden.
