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From: deb5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff)
Subject: Re: Korean and Japanese (was Scots and English (was: Re: Flemish and Dutch))
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In article <johna.59.000BD048@tiny.me.su.oz.au>,
John Atkinson <johna@tiny.me.su.oz.au> wrote:
>deb5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff) writes:
>
>>More specifically, lexicon; two languages can have identical or nearly
>>identical grammar (e.g. Korean and Japanese) and still not be considered
>>related.                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>
>Nearly identical grammar?  Not as I recollect.  Both are verb-final and 
>have most of the other properties which frequently correlate with this 
>(and which they may have inherited from proto-Altaic, if you believe that 
>theory).  Both have borrowed extensively from Chinese (mostly lexicon, 
>but some grammar).  But other than that their grammar is anything but  
>"identical".  

Let's try a little experiment:  Post a short sentence in romanised
Japanese (system of your choice) and I'll translate it into (romanised)
Korean, pointing out the morphological correspondances as I do so.  
(Since I'm not a native speaker of Korean, I'll try to have someone else
look over the final translation.) 

>Maybe someone who actually knows these languages can comment.

Tangsin.un kath.un salam yo?

>Anyway, I'm sure there are much better examples of the point you're 
>trying to make!

Such as...?  It's the best one I've been able to come up with, but if
you have any alternate suggestions, I'll be happy to look into them.



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