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Subject: Re: John Mc Carthy's request re: Penrose (mechanisms for consciousness)
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103t_english@west.cscwc.pima.edu writes:



>"Pure Consciousness" as I mean it is synonymous with the Sanskrit 
>term "Samadhi" or "sameness." It is also referred to as the "'Higher' 
>Self," the "Maha-atman," and so on.

>The Psalmist seems to refer to a similar state as "the Peace that 
>Surpasseth Understanding."

>It is identified by various labels in various contexts in Buddhism, the 
>most famous of which seems to be "nirvana" or "non-ness." (?)

>"Satori" in Zen.

>Meister Eckhardt seems to have referred to the same thing as 
>"gezucken" or "rapture."

>Hebrew mysticism seems to refer to it as "ayin" or "nothingness."


Is there an instrument that can measure pure consciousness?

In other words, what I see above reminds me of "alpha" waves
or alpha rhythms. 

But if this is so, then it seems to be pointless to ask if
computers can achieve pure consciousness because, they have
already achieved it. The question then should be can computers
become just like us and have an internal dialogue.



--
						-- Mark---
....we must realize that the infinite in the sense of an infinite totality, 
where we still find it used in deductive methods, is an illusion. Hilbert,1925
