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From: thantos@runic.mind.org (Alexander Williams)
Subject: Re: ALife Park
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Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 12:26:42 GMT
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In an arcane scroll, Alexander Williams quotes the holy scripturist
Keith Wiley , replying to the mystic words as written, saying:

>It only sounds ridiculous because you're talking about a completely 
>different program for god's sake.  read on......

   One which came directly out of your rectum as far as I can tell.
Of course, I bothered to hit the Tierra ftp site and go through the
recent papers to reacquaint myself with recent projects and actually
bother to find out what the score /is/ on recent proposals, accepted
and rejected, after reading /your/ post.  
   Research, forgotten Art.  Good thing Internet access makes it
easy.

>In an internet-wide Tierra, the the INTERNET would BE the native 
>environment.  Survival is not even an issue.

   Bovine excrement.  Creating programs in which the Internet is the
native environment /has/ been done.  You may recall the Robert
Morris Jr worm?  THAT was an Internet-native lifegorm, but it
certainly was unrelated to Tierra and Tom Ray in any way, shape or
form.
   Tierra, and anything Ray would even propose, will /always/ use
the virtual architecture system, for precisely those reasons.  The
ultimate test-tube.

>You're rambling about the original Tierra again which ran in a "virtual 
>machine" using made up code that run no where else.  The 
>internet-proposal made no such claims.

   Then you're an idiot too lazy to look up the papers yourself.
Read them.  The claims are there in big, bold, black (or white
depending on monitor) letters.

>WHAT IS IT WITH YOU PEOPLE?!  Everyone thinks I'm talking about the 
>original Tierra.  It's blatantly clear if you would all reread my post 
>that I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL TIERRA!!!!!!

   You mentioned a proposal by Tom Ray.  There can be only one of
those, by his own admission and by the records of papers published.
Its blatantly clear that your retro-derrier-occludement is
non-functional.
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