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From: aaron_j._dinkin@fourd.com (Aaron J. Dinkin)
Subject: Re: Allophones vs. Phonemes (was: ae)
Message-ID: <aaron_j._dinkin-3006961236350001@dmn1-66.usa1.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:36:35 -0500
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In article <31d67f10.1906666@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, exw6sxq@ix.netcom.com
(Bob Cunningham) wrote:

> aaron_j._dinkin@fourd.com (Aaron J. Dinkin) wrote:
> 
> >In article <4r4baq$51q@zeus.tcp.co.uk>, laker@tcp.co.uk (Markus Laker) wrote:
> >
> >> When everyone's sorted this out, can somebody please post a succinct
> >> explanation _that_does_not_contain_any_words_with_a_'ph'_in_them_ of when
> >> one should use slashes and when square brackets with ASCII IPA?
> >
> >Certainly.
> >
>      [...]
> 
> >As another example, I pronounce "writer" /'raIt@r/ and "rider" /'raId@r/.
> >However, my dialect causes intervocalic /t/ to become voiced. Since that
> >would result in homphony, the vowel before the /d/ is lengthened - 
> 
>      [...]

Whoops! I didn't notice I'd used that.... ("Homophony", people.)
 
> >I realize I explained this fairly clumsily, but I hope you comprehend it.
> >One more try: brackets represent actual articulation, whereas slashes are
> >phychological/perceptual.
>
>      Markus quite clearly requested an explanation with no "ph" words
> in it.  Since Mr Dinkin was unable to keep to that rule, I'm glad to
> see that he at least chose rather interesting words with which to
> violate it: "homphony" and "phychological".  I don't find either of
> them in my dictionaries.

That's my embarrassing typo of the week. Stay tuned next week for
"grammer" and "dipthong"!

Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom

