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From: deb5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff)
Subject: Re: Names
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:01:37 GMT
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In article <3rhp77$232@ss1.cam.nist.gov>,
John E Koontz <koontz@cam.nist.gov> wrote:
>In article <D9vpzH.Cy7@midway.uchicago.edu>, deb5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff) writes:
>|> In article <D9GpnK.4p0@actcom.co.il>, Uri Bruck <bruck@actcom.co.il> wrote:
>|> 
>|> >There is a concept of name translation - although it is not exactly the one 
>|> >you were reffering to in the original post.
>|> >Jews living in the Diaspora are often given two names, a 'regular' name, which
>|> >conforms to the local language, and a Jewish, or Hebrew, name. The Hebrew
>|> >name is not always related to the 'regular' one, but we often find pairs
>|> >of local and Hebrew names that go together, and many of these pairs have
>|> >similar meanings in their respective languages.
>
>The example someone once cited for me was Herschel : Tvi (sp?).

Tzvi or Tsvi.  "deer" in Hebrew.  Herschel is a diminutive form of
German "Hirsch", which also means "deer," so in this case the match is
quite good.  A similar example is Hebrew Tsiporah or Tsiporeth "bird"
(the name of one of Moses' wives, I believe) and Yiddish Feygle, a diminu-
tive of German Vogel "bird."

Once again, I can't understand how some can insist that correspondances
of this sort are not instances of "translation."

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