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From: ftilley@indirect.com (Felix E. Tilley Jr.)
Subject: Re: Roots of Lithuanian language ?
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CLARY Olivier (clary@sesostris.meteo.fr) wrote:
: In article <D8zGL1.61G@midway.uchicago.edu> deb5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
: >In article <3ppqu7$so4@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, Kyle Gryphon <UJZA56B@prodigy.com> wrote:
: >|[...] in Europe-Baltic
: >|Slavic
: >[...] Not all Indoeuropeanists prefer "Italo-Celtic" to "Italic" and "Celtic"

: OK, so I understand that among the branches of living IE languages (Albanian,
: Armenian, Baltic, Celtic, Germanic, Greek, Indo-Iranian, Romance, Slavic),
: possible groupings are: Balto-Slavic and Italo-Celtic.
: Following my habit to learn from readers of this group I would ask:
:    - are there other wider groupings? good indications of the overall shape
:      of the tree? (which branch separated earlier etc)
:    - what proportion of IE specialists support this view vs. another view?
: -- Olivier

To: clary@sesostris.meteo.fr (CLARY Olivier)
Subject: Re: Roots of Lithuanian language ?
Newsgroups: sci.lang

In article <3pvte3$njd@news.cict.fr> you wrote:
: In article <D8zGL1.61G@midway.uchicago.edu> deb5@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
: >In article <3ppqu7$so4@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, Kyle Gryphon <UJZA56B@prodigy.com> wrote:
: >|[...] in Europe-Baltic
: >|Slavic
: >[...] Not all Indoeuropeanists prefer "Italo-Celtic" to "Italic" and "Celtic"

: OK, so I understand that among the branches of living IE languages (Albanian,
: Armenian, Baltic, Celtic, Germanic, Greek, Indo-Iranian, Romance, Slavic),
: possible groupings are: Balto-Slavic and Italo-Celtic.
: Following my habit to learn from readers of this group I would ask:
:    - are there other wider groupings? good indications of the overall shape
:      of the tree? (which branch separated earlier etc)
:    - what proportion of IE specialists support this view vs. another view?
: -- Olivier

The Italo-Celtic is not controversial.  It has been suspected for a long time because 
of the peculiar resemblances Latin had with sister languages in ancient Italy - 
Sabellian, Osco-Umbrian, etc.  And obviously, the proto-italics had to come from the 
Danube basin where the Celys were.

But the Russians think the Slavic and Germanic languages are similarly related.  But I 
don't know the details of it.  Germanic is a centum group.  Slavic is a satem group.  
This leaves me confused.

Felix


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