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From: Marc de Vries <HdeVries@universal.nl>
Subject: Re: LOGITECH == JUNK
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> I've been very happy with their mice. Best in the business, IMHO. But
> their Wingman joysticks are extremely problematic. You'd know this if
> you'd follow this and other game related newsgroups for any length of
> time. I'm sure it wouldn't be cost effective for Logitech, but there
> should have been a product recall on the Wingman joysticks.

Well I have followed game related newsgroups and while everybody agrees
that the CH and Trustmaster joysticks are the best there is, the 
Logitech sure isn't as bad as you try to make it look.
I use a Logitech wingman extreme and a CH flightstick.
The Logitech extreme is hardware compatible with the Trustmaster which
is very nice for most flightsims. I have heard about some problems
with the cooliehat. It seems it was only designed for flightsims where
you don't use it that much. People playing nintendo like games with it
have had coolie hats broken off.
The CH is a very nice joystick but I have a problem that when I push my
joystick to the left that I can't control the throttle because you don't
have enough room to put your finger on the throttle anymore :-(

I also use a logitech mouse which works extremely well. (I bought it
after I had lots of problems other mouses)

Marc
