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From: Ben Sauvin <sauvin@csql.mv.com>
Subject: Re: Lisp is not an interpreted language
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Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:18:59 GMT
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Ralph Silverman wrote:
> 
> Ralph Silverman (z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us) wrote:
> : Carl L. Gay (cgay@ix.cs.uoregon.edu) wrote:
> 
> : :    From: thomas hennes <aie-rd@pobox.oleane.com>
> : :    Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 03:48:28 +0100
> 
> : :    Well, i am not sure about this. Consider the case of software agents
> : :    --which is directly linked to AI if you bear in mind that GOOD agents
> : :    are genetically evolutive (ideally). When dealing with networked agents,
> : :    you just cannot let pointer arithmetic (an automatic feature of C/C++)
> : :    get into the way, for obvious security reasons. LISP, on the other hand,
> : :    is one language that manages this pretty well, as do others such as
> : :    SafeTCL (another interpreted language!!).
> 
> : : Another?
> 
> : :    What i actually believe is that interpreted languages and compiled
> : :    languages have very different application domains. Interpreted languages
> : :    work wonders when used as tiny specialized scripts.
> 
> : : No, Common Lisp is not an interpreted language.
> 
> : : Yes, Lisp interpreters exist.
> 
> : : All commercial Common Lisps that I'm aware of are compiled by default.
> : : Even if you type in a "tiny specialized script" it is usually compiled
> : : before it is executed.
> 
> : : Harumph.  :)
> 
> : --
> : ***************begin r.s. response***************
> 
> :       lisp
> :       is one of the earliest
> :       high level languages,
> :       dating to the 1950s...
> 
> :       certainly,
> :       in early implementations,
> :       lisp
> :       was available primarily
> :       as an interpreted language...
> 
> :       historically,  lisp pioneered
> :       routine availability of
> :               recursion
> :       to the programmer...
> :       later...
> :       so generally available in
> :       the widespread tradition dating
> :       to algol60(revised)...
> 
> :       for those with systems capable
> :       of supporting (ms dr pc)dos
> :       (286 good)...
> :       versions of lisp interpreters
> :       are freely available as shareware...
> :       (lisp like)
> :               xlisp
> :       and
> :               pc-lisp;
> 
> :       each of these is remarkable
> :       and very well made...
> :       (xlisp is available in a
> :        variety of releases...)
> 
> : ***************end r.s. response*****************
> : Ralph Silverman
> : z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
> 
> --
> ******************begin r.s. response******************
> 
>         during the time of the early
>         development of
>                 lisp
>         ,
>         limitations,
>         now virtually taken for granted,
>         were not necessarily accepted...
> 
>         self-modification of software
>         particularly,
>         was thought,  by some,
>         to be a design goal for
>         advanced computer
>         programming languages...
> 
>         in early,  interpreted forms,
>                 lisp
>         supported such use...
>         various aspects of
>         self-modification were programmed
>         into systems...
> 
> ******************end r.s. response********************
> Ralph Silverman
> z007400b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

  Ralph, please forgive me (this is NOT a flame), but I GOTTA know: what
text formatting language or utility are you using? :)
