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From: deb5@midway.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff)
Subject: Re: Spanish pronunciation tips wanted
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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 23:17:23 GMT
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In article <4pakl1$8v1@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Coby (Jacob) Lubliner <coby@euler.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>In article <DsLr1M.8oA@midway.uchicago.edu>,
>Daniel von Brighoff <deb5@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>In article <4ogbl1$j2v@crcnis3.unl.edu>,
>>david shobe <dshobe@unlinfo.unl.edu> wrote:
>>>Since some of the pronunciations I asked about are dialect-dependent
>>>I suppose I should ask:
>>>Which dialect should I try to imitate?
>
>>[snip]
>
>>>Or perhaps I should give each of the five dialects a vote on how to
>>>pronounce "z", how to pronounce "ll", etc.  It is likely that the 
>>>result of such "democracy" will not be any of the five dialects,
>>>but a Spanish that avoids regionalisms should be understood in all
>>>regions, ?verdad?
>>
>>Or an unholy amalgam that sounds foreign everywhere.  Imagine what
>>your English would sound like if you "took a poll" of vowel pronun-
>>ciations among British, North American, South African, and 
>>Antipodean speakers.  Sure, you'd be understood, but you might also
>>be laughed at.
>
>Not a good analogy.  

Why not?

>But in any case I am not aware of any
>Hispanics who laugh at a pronunciation different from their own
>(vocabulary, perhaps).  What do you base your hypothesis on, "Da"?

Same thing your dispute of it is based on:  anecdotal evidence.  
Apparently, the hispanics you know are more charitable than the ones 
of my acquaintance.



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