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From: meus0001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (William E Meuse)
Subject: Re: Correction of PBS Nova lies
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Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 16:28:55 GMT
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Loren Petrich (petrich@netcom.com) wrote:
: 	[Some of what WEM discussed better belongs in talk.origins; I'll be
: 	moving the debate to there...]

 Alright then, let's keep the thread in this group to the lang. matters, and 
split the thread over there to origins matters.

: >: >: 	[Words for "water" deleted...]
:>:>:>newsreader) was correct in one point: Akkadian (Also Assyrian) MU, 
: >: >: >Aramaic MEYEEN (actually a plural) are related 
:>:>:>Universal tradition (unchanged until about the turn of the last Century) 
:>:>:>these peoples have descended from one Siem or Shem, a child of Noh or 
: >: >: >Noah. ...
: >: >: It is about as "universal" as the tradition that the founders of 
: >: >: Rome had been raised by a wolf. 
: >       Stories of the Deluge which agree in many points are found on 
: >every Cantinent, mon! ...
:  They are common to all the peoples of the Middle 
: >East, all of whom trace their ancestry in widely separate locations to 
: >one or another of Noh's grandchildran.
: 	[ancient Egyptians...]
: >   This is getting a bit out of field, but there is of course a corrolary 
: >to sci.lang, so I'll respond. Some like Gould have proposed that 
: >evolution works in bursts... Okay, but how many of these theorists have 
: >acknowledged the role of -hybridisation- in these type of changes? These 
: >structural changes from one species to another didn't happen just by 
: >-photosynthesis-. I propose that a new species (or language) can come about 
: >only through the 
: >hybridising of existing ones.

: 	For languages, demonstrably false. What are the Romance languages
: hybrids of??? They are all descended from Latin, yet they are mutually
: unintelligible, and unintelligible with respect to Latin. If Julius Caesar
: was to come forward in time to 20th cy. Rome, he'd find a lot of
: familiar-looking or half-familiar-looking spellings, plus a lot of odd
: ones, but enough phonological, vocabulary, and grammatical differences to
: leave him totally confused. 

   My theory on lang. is that if different dialects can represent whole 
different ways of looking at things, than a different lang. is an 
intirely different state of mind. These lang.s ARE -hybrid- states of 
mind, ideas an cancepts migrating with the peoples an from one people to 
the next. Gauls, Ligurians, Romans (Tubal); Franks, Ostrogoths, Visigoths 
(Tiras). For example, French represents a largely Latin vocabulary as 
mutated by being sandwiched between a Celtic substratum and a Frankish 
superstratum. Spanish, Italian and Latin are much closer to being 
mutually understandable to literate people. As for Romanian, I'll leave 
it to the readers to canjecture on how that state of mind was born to 
what "parents" beside Latin, but it is obviously at least as mutated as 
French.  

: >analysed will show that the Ancient traditions in Enoch and Jubilees are 
: >correct.
: 	And what are _those_ books???
: >etc. that are familiar. Then go look through some books of Ancient 
: >(1-6 Dynasty) Egyptian art and compare the pictures you have drawn with 
: >the pictures they drew.
: ... You should be able to pick out the childran of 
: >Cain (Australopitheci) childran of Seth (Homo Habiles = "watchers") and 
: >the brutal hybrids who destroyed them, the Nafeeleem. Noone will dispute 
: >that after all these groups vanished, only Homo Sapiens survived, and 
: >that his (our) culture seems to radiate outward from the region of Hola 
: >Mount Ararat. As for genetic diversity - The wives of Noah's childran - 
: >their names are given in Jubilees (included in the Dead Sea Scrolls) as 
: >Sedeqah Thelbab (Siem); Nayella Tomahawk (Ham) and Adatanases (Yafiet). 
: >That just shows how much hybridisation had gone on -before- the Water of 
: >Downstruction, an a lot more has gone on since!  


