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From: jordan@cruzio.com (Jordan Bortz)
Subject: Re: Smalltalk Consultant Desparately seeking advice !!!!!!!!!
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Well -- I think that in this case, the person you want to talk to is
the Hiring Manager, not precision. See what the managers take on it
is; basically the hiring manager is the one who's going to poison
their relationship with Precision if they hire you....

I dont think that Precision can prove that you gave them permission to
submit the resume ...  If a head hunter isnt adding value to your
situation, but is trying to suck up a comission, ask them what value
they are providing and why they deserve it?

Forget talking to Precision -- they cant sue you and you sound like
you dont like them. Talk to the hiring manager -- if the hiring
manager likes you, he'll deal with Precision and maybe throw money at
them to make them go away.

	Jordan Bortz
	President
	Object Productions Inc




objectcodr@aol.com (Objectcodr) wrote:

>I am inquiring as to the experiences fellow Smalltalkers have had with a
>consulting firm (I see that they are in this newsgroup) called Precision 

>I have had a bad experiences and am wondering if anyone has any advice as
>to how I can proceed.

>The incident involves a Major Investment Bank in NYC. I recently responded
>to an ad on this newsgroup placed by a well known Smalltalk Consulting
>House. After speaking to them at length of my background and of particular
>clients and assignments, I sent them a resume. They went through a few of
>their clients and described the assignments in great detail, and asked my
>permission to submit me as a candidate to each client, I was interested
>and granted permission for each. At one particular Investment Bank, they
>spoke personally with the technical manager, who knew of me from a
>previous assignment and the firm offered to fly me in for a face to face
>interview. . they also agreed to pay me my asking rate (didn t give me any
>hassles).

>To my surprise, one of the people in the HR area of the Investment Bank
>told them that a firm named Precision had previously submitted my resume a
>few months back .When they told me of this, I was infuriated. I once
>responded to an ad by Precision for an unrelated spot (Insurance gig in
>New Jersey), was never contacted by them, never agreed to $$$$, and
>certainly did not clear any clients with them or give permission to submit
>my resume.

>A day after this incident, I received numerous calls from Precision
>stating that I must take the assignment through them or I will be
>"blacklisted forever" from the client. They also stated that I must pay
>for my own flights in for interviews and take a W2 compensation with them
>(without benefits) for this assignment which is very low compared to what
>the other firm was offering. 

>I don t know what to do, I want the assignment, however I can t allow
>myself to be "bullied" into such an unfair situation by Precision. I also
>don t want to lose face with the more reputable firm, who dealt with me
>totally on the up and up and has a much larger presence in the Object Tech
>arena than Precision (I know of several guys at ParcPlace and IBM who
>swear by them).
>Has anyone been in a similar bind? Is there a way to make Precision step
>out of the loop?  IS THERE A WAY OUT???


