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From: curtb@iquest.net (Curtis Bledsoe)
Subject: Re: Upgrade to PPC Dylan TR?
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In article <4i7o2v$2rf$2@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, Doug Hoffman
<72310.1743@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

>I read the Byte article on Dylan and I'm thinking about getting the 
>$40 version so I can tinker with the language.
>
>But, I was wondering if I have the hardware to do so.  Do you know 
>what are the minimum requirements?  I have a Powerbook 145B, 8 meg 
>of ram, about 20 meg of available hard drive space (no cd rom).  Is 
>this setup enough to run Dylan?
>
>-- 
>Doug Hoffman  72310.1743@compuserve.com

First I must say that for $40 you get a lot of printed documentation and
info that you just cant get any where else and it includes all of the
implementations of Dylan currently available for the mac not just Apple
Dylan.

Note I have only played with it so fare (no time) so this is what the
documentation has to say.

With that said here are the requirements.

Apple Dylan is shipped on CD so you need access to one fore at least the
time it takes to copy the files to Disk or hard-drive.

Apple Dylan can be used in either a one-machine, or a two-machine
configuration. In the one-machine configuration, the Apple Dylan
development environment and the program you are developing both run on the
same machine. In the two-machine configuration, the run on different
machines which are connected by AppleTalk network.

They recommend running it on a 68040 with at least 20MB of "physical"
memory. You can use virtual memory, but performance will be poor.

The Apple Dylan development environment requires a memory partition of at
least 14.5MB, with 18 suggested. A low memory version of it, "Apple Dylan
SI" requires at least 10MB, with 14MB suggested. This decrease in memory
requirements comes at some cost in performance.

The actual amount of memory used by Apple Dylan varies with the operations
being performed. for example, it takes significantly more memory to
compile a project or create a library than to use one of the same size.

The amount of memory required for the application you are developing
depends on the characteristics of the application. It's probably a good
idea to start with around 2MB, and work up or down from there. If you are
using the interface builder, you should start at 4MB.

The user interface for the development is optimized for a 16-inch or
larger 8-bit color monitor. However, the system is usable on any monitor.

The Apple Dylan development environment runs best on a 6830 or 6840 based
Mac. To run it on a Power Mac, you should turn off the modern memory
manager.

Applications under development can be run on any Mac, and will run native
on the PowerPC.
