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From: Dave@Yost.COM (Dave Yost)
Subject: 800 number for Dylan videos
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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 19:26:30 GMT
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In article <3bd093$s82@newsbf01.news.aol.com>, Edream <edream@aol.com> wrote:
>I suspect the only way really to get a
>feel for the Lisp world is to use a language like Dylan.  Reading glowing
>testamonials just doesn't give one the real feel for what is going on.

There is another way.  See if you can get your hands on the
video tapes of the two Dylan sessions at Apple's World Wide
Developers Conference of May, 1994.  There is a lot of good info
and good demo on those tapes.  The piece de resistance is the
dissection of a C++ member function from MacApp, Apple's
pre-Dylan object oriented framework, showing line by line how
you would do the same thing in the framework being developed for
Dylan.  The punchline is that every line of this dozen-or-so-line
function is a low level waste of time, unnecessary in Dylan.
They also show very nicely how multimethods will be used extensively
in the Dylan framework to allow you to write your application-specific
code in a very clean way.

You can order the tapes from
  GT Recording
  800 878 2737
  206 783 6911

They're $30 each, plus shipping ($3 - $15)
There are two Dylan tapes:

  57 Dylan Overview: Programming Language and Development Environment
  67 Dylan In-Depth [includes the MacApp comparison mentioned above]

If you know anyone at a big enough company that develops for
Macs, they might just might have them.  I don't know anywhere
else that you might find them available for loan.  I bet if you
could scare up an audience somewhere, like at a user group or
something, you could get someone at Apple to lend them to you to
show.

 Dave Yost
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