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From: nfp5e@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Nathan Piazza)
Subject: Re: Goedel, and the Proof of "god"
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The Gospel according to St. Chuck:
> And now, if you will, my little proof that their is no God.
> 
> 1 - Knowlege is power
> 
> 2 - To be all powerful, one must be all knowlegeable
> 
> However...
> 
> There is no such thing as a definite position and momentum for a subatomic
> particle, but rather a probability for each....
> 

> Yet for an omnipotent being to be omnipotent, he must know all, yet such
> knowledge is unknowable simply because it just doesn't exist... and not
> through any ham fistedness in our ability to measure. Thanks to recent
> experiment using radioactive decay designed specifically to prove that
> quantum theory was not the
> lowest level of reality, unfortunately for those who designed the
> experiments, they simply proved that quantum is in fact the lowest level,
> there is no secret knowlege underneath. This inability to know is built
> into the very being of subatomic matter...
> 
> So....how can an omnipotent being exist in a universe where the very
> knowledge needed to be omnipotent with simply doesn't exist?
> 
> Heisenberg 1 
> God 0
> 
> There is no God....
> 
Okay, St. Chuck.  I hate this kamanism idiot as much as the
next guy, but if you start posting stuff with a comparable
level of bullshit in it, I think I will puke.  So about this
heisenberg thing--
It is pretty ironic that you used Heisenberg to prove that God
doesn't exist, since it is precisely his principle that leaves
room for God in quantum physics.  The Heisenberg principle
created the dilemma of understanding how particles that only
have probablistic existence all of a sudden become manifest
when they are observed.  In other words, what causes the
collapse of the quantum wave-function?  Well, to this day, no
one knows with any certainty, and if you are a physicist who
wants to have a job in the near future, you try to ignore the
question.  However, if I was a ballsy Christian physicist, I
might say that GOD collapses the wave-function.  It's pretty
convenient.  We could even list as one of God's attributes the
fact that he 'knows' what true quantum reality is, and he
imparts that knowledge to humans through wave-function collapse.

	--Nathann
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"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"
--Somebody whose has read anything by DOCTOR "kamanism".				
