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From: vicc@ucc.su.oz.au (Vic Cinc)
Subject: uploading
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hi

here is interesting problem for the proponents of uploading. (tipler et al)

I experience the colour blue, but nowhere is there blue. The
light of that frequency has no "blue" in it, the rods(cones?) in my
eye have no blue in them, the neurons that carry the impulses to my brain
have no blue in it.  nowhere in my brain is there blue. and yet I am
concsious of "blue", clear as daylight, bright as the ocean. how on earth
are you going to simulate that inside software??????
This "blue" had the quality blue, even before I labeled it "blue",
If I label it green, the quality "blue" remains.

clearly science does not even have the starting points for understanding
consciousness, let alone having the arrogance to make assertions
that consciousness is simulatable in software and hence uploadable.

Vic

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 Vic Cinc, ASDC pty ltd                 vicc@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
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"The deepest motive for materialism...
is simply a terror of consciousness." J. R. Searle.

