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From: chrislee@netcom.com (Christopher A. Lee)
Subject: Re: BABY KILLING JESUS!!!
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In article <3mob2t$ijf$1@adelaide.DIALix.oz.au> jiarna@adelaide.DIALix.oz.au (John Wright) writes:
>>>: Note: The Muslims believe in the SAME God.
>>>
>>>Their holy words are different, their society is different, their
>>>concept of right/wrong/good/evil/acceptable/unacceptable is diff-
>>>erent. The only similarity in their God is the basic history. Its
>>>very pedantic to claim Christians follow the same God that Muslims
>>>do.  I know at least  one Christian who is convinced that Muslims
>>>are "morally corrupt" and would be very offended if told that she
>>>believed in the same God as them.
>>>
>>And the whole idea of the Trinity is blasphemy to a Muslim.
>
>Please note that Jesus Christ is God, as stated in John 1:1.  Muslims do 

Please note that Jesus is simply a prophet of less stature than Mohammed 
according to the Koran. What's your point?

And Rama is God according to Vedas. Again, what's your point?

I can't see any real difference between the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran:
they're all scriptures of different religions.

>not believe in Jesus, 

Duh.

As a prophet but not as a god. That's blasphemous to them. Just as their 
version is blasphemous to you.

And they are just as sincere, justified and certain in their beliefs as 
you are in yours. 

>                        therefore they do not worship the same God as 
>Christians.  The Christian God gave His life to save sinners from 

Evidence? The Bible won't do because Moslems could quote the Koran and 
Hindus the Vedas to back up their position.

>destruction, while the Muslim God slaughters sinners as a punishment, or 

Duh.

Eternal torture in Hell for not believing in Jesus? Genocide of 
Caananites, Midianites etc in the OT? Noah's flood? Sodom and Gomorrah?
Hardening Pharoah's heart so that he could kill the firstborn?

Sure sounds like your god slaughtering folk to me.

>chops their hands off, etc.  The difference is love, which is probably an 

Allah doesn't chop off hands. Rather like the Christian god didn't burn 
witches, heretics or scientists (like Bruno) to death at the stake.

Their followers do and did.

But I agree, they might as well be different gods because of the 
different attributes.

I don't judge people by what they believe, but what they are. If they're 
nice people we get on well. If they're nasty people then we don't get on at 
all. It doesn't matter what their religion is. 

>alien concept to most of the world.

It seems an alien concept to plenty of Christians who call their hatred 
for their fellow man "love". Their harrassment of atheists and other 
people who don't share their fundamentalist beliefs. 

This atheist loves his family, his lady (a Hindu), her family, his pets, 
(well, they're part of the family aren't they), his country etc just as 
much as the fundamentalists who tell him he is full of hate.

The only difference is that he doesn't love somebody else's god. And his 
reaction to religious harrassment gets called hatred. Which only serves 
to alienate him even more WRT the harrassers.

>John W.

Chris

