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From: olaf@cwi.nl (Olaf Weber)
Subject: Re: Penrose and Searle (was Re: Roger Penrose's fixed ideas)
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The following quote of John R. Searle

>>> "But now if we are trying to take seriously the idea that the
>>> "brain is a digital computer, we get the uncomfortable result
>>> "that we could make a system that does just what the brain does
>>> "out of pretty much anything.  [Including] cats and  mice and
>>> "cheese or levers or water pipes or pigeons ...

is from "The Rediscovery of the Mind", Chapter 9 section IV, page 207
in my MIT Press paperback.

In article <1994Dec6.195116.3951@news.media.mit.edu>, minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes:

> It would be better for [Rodney] York to say what he thinks is is the
> meat of the argument -- which, so far as I can see, is precisely
> what [Jim] Balter said it is: Searle's articulate expression of
> incrededulity and discomfort.  (I'm assuming that Searle actually
> said what that quote above says.  Is this correct?)

He did.  Unless my brain is made of cheese, similar language can
already be found in his infamous 1980 paper which introduced the
Chinese Room.

-- Olaf Weber
