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From: b0017@nibh.go.jp (Maurizio MORABITO; Tel.6661)
Subject: Re: Consciousness and the Senses/Brain development
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In article <3c57el$buv@netaxs.com> sparky@netaxs.com (Tim Sheridan) writes:

   Ron Maimon (rmaimon@husc9.Harvard.EDU) wrote:
   : In article <D0CorF.I4t@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>, pindor@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
   : |> we _know_ that we are conscious,
   : |> without involving sight, hearing, etc.

   : Without the constant stimulation of the outside world, it would be impossible
   : to stay "concious". Your brain would just settle into a steady-state, and
   : you would not be doing anything that could be remotely classified as
   : "thinking"
   : we only know we are concious because of our senses.

   I think this is interesting for pro-choice debates..  But not only are we 
   conscious because of our senses but we are conscious because of the 
   higher ordered way that we come to process them..

"Higher ordered way"????


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