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From: mjs14@unix.brighton.ac.uk (shute)
Subject: Time is a human concept (was Re: Reality as a Hologram (Was Re: Discriminative Wisdom))
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Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 10:08:19 GMT
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In article <369cvm$p3h@news1.hh.ab.com> gxkambic@csslc10.cs.hh.ab.com (George Kambic) writes:
[Re: previous postings talking about how reality is created by us]
>Ummm...you postulate this, but where is the evidence?  It seems that 
>first of all that these assumptions could not have been made for millions 
>of years, since modern man only seemed to develop in the last 200,000 or so.
>Secondly, there seem to have been many different philosophical systems 
>around with vastly different assumptions about the world.  These seem to 
>have made no difference in the physical consequences of the world.  E.g., 
>we still all fall when we step off of a cliff.  Not only that, but 
>archeological evidence seems to indicate the dinosaurs also got hurt when 
>they fell down or drowned.  In other words, not much has changed. 

That reminds me...  I keep meaning to ask the learned readership...
I've often seen it mentioned in these groups that 'Time' is a concept
that is the invention of the human mind... that it doesn't really
exist... things just are.

What I've not quite understood in this is 'Why is it necessarily the
invention of the human mind?'  Does a dog, learning a new trick, such
as catching a ball, have the concept of 'time', 'cause and effect'?

So maybe it is the invention of the mammalian mind??
But then, don't other phila and kingdoms make use of cause and effect
for their survival?

Since the only law of physics that incorporates an arrow for time is
the second law of thermodynamics, could it not be assumed that time
is real for any system that obeys the second law of thermodynamics??
In which case, isn't that *everything* in this universe??

I look forward to your thoughts on this matter... pointing out the
errors in my reasoning above.

Cheers,
-- 

Malcolm SHUTE.         (The AM Mollusc:   v_@_ )        Disclaimer: all

