Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology From: "Magoo" Subject: Re: SCIENTOLOGY'S NEW RELEASE FORMS: WE WILL KILL AGAIN Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 08:38:45 GMT > September 01, 2003 :: > Have Scientology stars, celebrities and regular members signed away > their human rights? Yes....however they don't consider signing these forms to be such. There lies the difference. When I was on OT 7, Lisa died (Probably while I was at Flag) and I remember suddenly these massively huge "waivers" were brought out. These were new ones, different from what we had signed to get onto the level. I read them, and it sounded like Scientology was just freaking out once more about something wierd. Of course I knew nothing of Lisa's death. I knew little of any legal cases, except Wallersheim's and Mayo's...both of which I was in the courtroom for. It is ~always~ promoted to the public and I'm sure staff too that "This is in your best interests". Some people just sign, being true believers. Others ask questions, and they are "Handled" or basically brought to "Ethics" where one is grilled until they realize this IS for their benefit, and sign. If one has disagreements, there are other gradients of "Ethics" (Barf) that are applied, until one realizes they are just being "Counter Intention" to the greatest group on the Planet. Your own personal rights? Now why might you be worrying about that, anima? Don't you KNOW? Do you have ANY uncertainties as to Scientology's complete and utter blah blah blah? On and on the merry-go-round goes, until you say "Uncle!" and get off---and sign. Last resort is you can get a "tailor made" (personalized) Security Check, which you DO pay for...in the thousands, to find out your hidden deeds and intentions which are keeping you from trusting the group.....and signing. All Security Checks begin with: "I am not auditing you". That means the information can and often does go right from the Session to "Ethics" ...and after you have to do conditions on whatever your auditor/Security Checker has written up. A perfect example of the Tailor Made enforcement is something that happened to me. I have posted before, but for those who missed it, it's a good example of how things go. I was on OT 7 and I helped get my mother-in-law onto OT 8. I was her FSM because of this, meaning I helped in the process and thus get 10% commission, or in this case, $500. Ok, So the Sea org member at Flag who is the reg for OT 8 is named "Charmain". Her husband was on the ship when my mother-in-law arrived. He filled out the FSM slip ....and took the $500 commission I was supposed to get---having done nothing at all to help her onto OT 8. I called the Ship.....talked to them, said no way, that I am her FSM and that is my commission! They agreed, and said I will get it. Months passed, no money came. So I began calling Charmain who I knew and at first asking her to help on this. As she didn't, I called more pissed off. Finally I had to go to Flag for a 6-month Check, and I got my general Security Check. After I was told, "You have a Tailer Made Sec-Check". I was surprised, but you cannot say "No"....so Ok. The auditor begins, "What Overts do you have on Sea Org members?" "What have you done to Charmain?" "What hidden crimes do you have against Sea Org members?" This goes on for hours (with me paying of course), and I am SO pissed I'm about ready to jump over the table and yell: "THIS IS INSANE>>>>>>HER HUSBAND ~STOLE~ MY MONEY!!!!" But I KNOW to yell this will only cause me more money, more time, etc. So I continue as best I can. i knew the 'tech' and all that would do is result in more hours of what did ~~I~~ do. It's the same with these waivers, plus the public honestly believe the psych's are horribly evil people and Scientology is their best solution. As far as the PC folders, those have always been the property of C of S, as long as they put in the "Priest/Penetance Priveledges". I was there when they put that in, and it was for legal reasons. Best! Tory/Magoo~~ X-Scientologist after 30 years "in" Free Speech Advocate!~ http://www.xenu.net http://www.torymagoo.org