\begindata{text,540999848} \textdsversion{12} \template{default} \define{excerptedcaption attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768] attr:[RightMargin RightMargin Inch 32768] attr:[Flags IncludeBeginning Int Clear] attr:[Flags IncludeEnd Int Clear] attr:[FontFace Bold Int Set] attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]} \define{f } \define{e } \define{d } \define{c } \define{b } \define{g } \define{h attr:[FontFamily rom Int 0] attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 6]} \define{a attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1] attr:['color' '#F0A000']} \bold{Date}: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:11:59 +0200 (MST) \bold{From}: Jiri Mracek \bold{To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Subject}: Unsatisfied symbols in AUIS 6.3.1 on HP-UX 9.03 Installation of AUIS 6.3.1 on our system HP-UX 9.03 ended with the following: ... cc +z -W p,-H1000000 +O1 -I. -I/sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/include/atk -I/sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/include -I/usr/include/X11R5 -o class class.o classpp.o /sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/lib/libossup.a /sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/lib/libatkos.a \ /bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols: yywrap (code) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 ... Can anyone tell me what we are doing wrong? Greetings, -- My postings = my own opinions. -- \ \ Jiri Mracek Phone : +49 711 685 4806 \ \ Fax : +49 711 682 357 \ \ Email : Mracek@rus.uni-stuttgart.de \ \ Computer Center Mail : Allmandring 30 \ \ University of Stuttgart 70569 Stuttgart \ Germany \ \ \bold{Date}: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:08:31 +0200 (MET DST) \bold{From}: Christer Bernerus \bold{To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Subject}: Text/enriched in messages ? \\begindata\{text,19413788\} \\textdsversion\{12\} Running AUIS6.3. \\ Q: Is there any support for text/enriched in messages? I know there is \\ support for richtext, and the code suggests that reading text/enriched may \\ be possible. But can I send a message using text/enriched ? Chris. \\enddata\{text,19413788\} \bold{Date}: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:17:23 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Robert Andrew Ryan \bold{To}: Jiri Mracek \bold{Subject}: Re: Unsatisfied symbols in AUIS 6.3.1 on HP-UX 9.03 \bold{CC}: Info-Andrew Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 1-Sep-94 Unsatisfied symbols in AUIS.. Jiri Mracek@rus.uni-stut (1073*) > cc +z -W p,-H1000000 +O1 -I. -I/sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/include/atk > -I/sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/include -I/usr/include/X11R5 -o class > class.o classpp.o /sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/lib/libossup.a > /sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/lib/libatkos.a \ > /bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols: > yywrap (code) Sigh, probably the easiest way to fix this is to: cd overhead/class/pp;make LEXLIB=-ll dependInstall. Then: cd auis-6.3;make dependInstall. A more permanent fix would be to edit overhead/class/pp/Imakefile and add the following: #ifdef hpux LEXLIB=-ll #endif Hope this helps, -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium \bold{Date}: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:24:56 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Robert Andrew Ryan \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , freeman-eric@CS.YALE.EDU (Eric Freeman) \bold{Subject}: Re: Couple of questions Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 29-Aug-94 Couple of questions Eric Freeman@CS.YALE.EDU (571) > I'm wondering if > anyone has developed a package for creating complex dialog boxes or perhaps > someone has been successful in combining Motif and the ATK? Currently the mechanism available for doing this sort of thing is adew using the layout inset as the substrate for the widgets it provides. \ For slightly more sophisticated layout help you may wish to investigate using figure and it's "Anchor's and Automatic Resizing". (To get adew widgets into a figure you'll need to add an extra substrate around the widget, lset or layout will work for this purpose as they both support adding a child by pasting it in from the cutbuffer.) If you need more details feel free to send me email. Hope this helps, -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium \bold{Date}: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 07:49:47 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Nathaniel Borenstein \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , Christer Bernerus \bold{Subject}: Re: Text/enriched in messages ? Excerpts from info-andrew: 1-Sep-94 Text/enriched in messages ? Christer Bernerus@cs.cha (319) \ > Q: Is there any support for text/enriched in messages? I know there is \ > support for richtext, and the code suggests that reading text/enriched may \ > be possible. But can I send a message using text/enriched ? \ No. It would not be a major upgrade, but it hasn't been done yet. \ \bold{Date}: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 20:27:25 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Fred Hansen \bold{To}: Robert Andrew Ryan \bold{Subject}: Scrolling Works !!!!! \bold{CC}: Info-Andrew Rob, Congrats. Scrolling works!!! I have a file with rasters and they scroll exactly as they ought. Scrolling backwards is seamless, just as a user might expect. \ Good work on the new scroll interface. \ (info-andrew: Coming soon to a version 7.1 AUIS near you. Join the Consortium now and enjoy proper scrolling.) Fred Hansen \bold{From}: lensmirb@ct.med.ge.com (Bill Lensmire 5-5343) \bold{Date}: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 17:58:30 -0500 \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: andrew on sgi irix 5.2 I am very interested in learning more about andrew. I am in the process of loading andrew on my linux box at home. At work, I have an SGI running IRIX 5.2. I was wondering if anyone has ported andrew to irix 5.2. When I try to compile, I get the following error: 26> make ... rm -f getcallr.o ,getcallr.s ,getcallr.c cp getcallr.spp ,getcallr.c cc -G 0 -cckr -E -O -I. -I/usr/people/guest/bill/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/people/guest/bill/andrew/include -I/usr/include -DSYSV -D_BSD_SIGNALS -DWORD=4 -DMSTATS ,getcallr.c > ,getcallr.s as -nocpp -o getcallr.o ,getcallr.s as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 117:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef int __int32_t as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 118:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef unsigned __uint32_t as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 133:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef long long __int64_t as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 134:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef unsigned long long __uint64_t as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 152:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef __int32_t __psint_t as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 153:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef __uint32_t __psunsigned_t as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 174:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef __int32_t __scint_t as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 175:undefined assembler operation: typedef typedef __uint32_t __scunsigned_t *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. thanks for your help, --bill -- \ William Lensmire 5-5343 \bold{ReSent-From}: Fred Hansen \bold{ReSent-To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Date}: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:44:28 +0200 (MST) \bold{From}: Jiri Mracek \bold{To}: Robert Andrew Ryan \bold{Subject}: Re: Unsatisfied symbols in AUIS 6.3.1 on HP-UX 9.03 \bold{Cc}: Wilfred.Hansen@CS.CMU.EDU \excerptedcaption{Excerpts from nets.auis: 1-Sep-94 Re: Unsatisfied symbols in .. Robert Andrew Ryan@andre (727)} \quotation{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 1-Sep-94 Unsatisfied symbols }\quotation{in AUIS.. Jiri Mracek@rus.uni-stut (1073*) } \quotation{> cc +z -W p,-H1000000 +O1 -I. -I/sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/include/atk }\quotation{> -I/sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/include -I/usr/include/X11R5 -o class }\quotation{> class.o classpp.o /sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/lib/libossup.a }\quotation{> /sw/hp700_ux90/auis-6.3/lib/libatkos.a \ }\quotation{> /bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols: }\quotation{> yywrap (code) } \quotation{Sigh, probably the easiest way to fix this is to: cd }\quotation{overhead/class/pp;make LEXLIB=-ll dependInstall. Then: cd auis-6.3;make }\quotation{dependInstall. } \quotation{A more permanent fix would be to edit overhead/class/pp/Imakefile and }\quotation{add the following: } \quotation{#ifdef hpux }\quotation{LEXLIB=-ll }\quotation{#endif } \quotation{Hope this helps, }\quotation{-Rob Ryan }\quotation{Andrew Consortium } Hello, thank you both for your help. Rob, your suggestion works. Unfortunatelly, we run into the same problem in doc/mkbrowse. Even if the solution was very easy I wonder at the situation Kenneth Holmlund has described yesterday: \quotation{I downloaded the source from the HP database in Liverpool and it's supposed to be tuned for HPUX. Everything compiled fine and well - no errors or anything and the whole package got installed by "make World"} The routine yywrap is situated in /ust/lib/libl.a, the same place as Kenneth's one. Except for the two changes we had to do the installation was done in 2.5 hours. \ Greetings, \ -- My postings = my own opinions. -- \ \ Jiri Mracek Phone : +49 711 685 4806 \ Fax : +49 711 682 357 \ Email : Mracek@rus.uni-stuttgart.de \ Computer Center Mail : Allmandring 30 \ University of Stuttgart 70569 Stuttgart \ Germany \ \bold{Date}: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 12:39:50 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Bill Schell \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, lensmirb@ct.med.ge.com (Bill Lensmire 5-5343) \bold{Subject}: Re: andrew on sgi irix 5.2 (not yet) I don't believe Andrew has been ported to IRIX 5.x yet. There is a 4.x port, but it doesn't work right under 5.x. I started doing a port a few months ago, but ran out of spare time to work on it (after fixing a dozen or so small problems, including the one mentioned). Anyone out there at the ITC (or elsewhere) want to be the savior of all of us poor SGI users? Bill Schell bill@allegra.att.com AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ \bold{Date}: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 15:22:18 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Susan Straub \bold{To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Subject}: Fwd: Patch for HP Users Dear AUIS User, \ A patch is now available which fixes the following problem that has been reported for HP users who have applied patch.631 to their current sources: \ in overhead/class/pp and doc/mkbrowse: \ /bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols: yywrap (code) The patch fixes two Imakefiles: overhead/class/pp/Imakefile and doc/mkbrowse/Imakefile. \ You can retrieve the file patch.hp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in pub/AUIS/patches/official. The README in that directory provides instructions for applying the patch. \ Send mail to info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu if you have problems or need help. \ Susan Straub Andrew Consortium \ \bold{Date}: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 08:31:38 -0500 (CDT) \bold{From}: Terry Gliedt \bold{To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Subject}: Re: full international behaviour \ I am passing this comment on from klausf@osgo.ks.he.schule.de (Klaus Fueller). Sounds like something you should include in your "to-do" list. If you double-click on a word with a national special character in it you notice that that character is not regarded as component of the word but as a word delimiter. To adapt ez to a full international behaviour you should change the set of character ez assumes to be alphabetic. \ =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710 \ \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: how to make *.ch \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Tue, 13 Sep 94 15:43:24 PST dear anyone \ I have a question. I am porting andrew source program(auis?.tar.Z) but I don't know how to make *.ch. let me know how to make *.ch. your help would be apprecieted. bye ! \ \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: let me know error \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Tue, 13 Sep 94 15:55:49 PST dear anyone \ I am a beginner so I don't know following compile error message. \ doindex: indexing observe.do ...OK doindex: indexing path.do ...OK doindex: indexing proctbl.do ...OK doindex: indexing profile.do ...OK doindex: indexing region.do ...ld.so: Undefined symbol: __XWaitForWritable *** Error code 127 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install.time' let me know how to solve the error. your help would be appreciated. bye ! \bold{Date}: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:08:43 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Robert Andrew Ryan \bold{To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Subject}: Re: how to make *.ch I assume that you got through this problem, since your next problem couldn't come up otherwise :-) Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 13-Sep-94 let me know error Hong Sung-Jun@kttdx.kote (446) > doindex: indexing region.do ...ld.so: Undefined symbol: __XWaitForWritable > *** Error code 127 Try adding: SYSLIBS=-lX11 to atk/basics/common/Imakefile, then do make Makefile in that directory, followed by a make dependInstall in the top level directory. (auis-6.3) Alternatively after the make fails as you reported above type: touch region.do and resume the build. (again by make dep[endInstall in the top level.) What platform are you compiling on? Which version of auis do you have? \ 6.3.1 is the latest, I believe that nothing relevevant to this problem has changed since 6.3 though. -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium \bold{From}: Cameron Elliott \bold{Subject}: Andrew 6.3.1 ported to IRIX 5.2? \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:59:14 -0700 (PDT) I am working on this, but its not just a straight C conversion. Anyone who has done any work, or has done this please contact me. Cameron -- \ Cameron Elliott cam@vio.com Virtual I/O \ Maker of Head Mounted Displays 1000 Lenora St. Suite 600 Seattle, Washington 98121 (206)382-7412 x819 \bold{Date}: Sat, 17 Sep 94 16:30:14 KDT \bold{From}: sjhong@tdx.kotel.co.kr (Sungjoon Hong) I have a problem while I am installing andrew. I am sending the following error log file to you \ my system is sun4/75 and SunOS Release 4.1.3_U1. I have a auis-6.3. your help would be appreciated, /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/X11fonts/amenu12.pcf + install -c -m 0444 xws.do /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/dlib/atk/xws.do /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/bin/doindex -d /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/dlib/atk xws.do doindex: indexing xws.do ...ld.so: Undefined symbol: _XrmStringToQuark *** Error code 127 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install.time' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk/basics/x *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk/basics/x *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk/basics *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' ~ \bold{Date}: Sat, 17 Sep 94 17:10:59 KDT \bold{From}: sjhong@tdx.kotel.co.kr (Sungjoon Hong) I have a problem while I am installing andrew. I am resending the following error log file to you \ my system is sun4/75 and SunOS Release 4.1.3_U1. I have a auis-6.3. your help would be appreciated, /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/X11fonts/amenu12.pcf + install -c -m 0444 xws.do /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/dlib/atk/xws.do /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/bin/doindex -d /user2/sjhong/Andrew/andrew/dlib/atk xws.do doindex: indexing xws.do ...ld.so: Undefined symbol: _XrmStringToQuark *** Error code 127 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install.time' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk/basics/x *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk/basics/x *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk/basics *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working directory /user2/sjhong/Andrew/auis-6.3/atk *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' ~ \bold{Date}: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 01:43:37 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Rocky - Rakesh Patel \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: snap linux<->sun works. I am now using a SNAPified messages under Linux talking to a guardian/messages server on my Sun. This is over a 14.4kb CSLIP link. There were some changes that I had to make. I'll try to make some time to submit these back, but they were all very minor. This is using 6.3.1. Rakesh Patel. \center{\center{\f{R\e{a\d{k\c{e\b{sh B. P}a}t}e}l}} \center{\g{\blue{\italic{\bold{rapatel@rockypc.rutgers.edu}}} }}} \bold{\bigger{\italic{\red{Love}}}} is an \blue{ocean} of emotions, entirely surrounded by expenses. -Thomas Robert Dewar But it's worth it. - Rakesh Patel \bold{From}: geek@imageek.york.cuny.edu (Erik VanRiper) \bold{Subject}: SGI Irix 5.2 \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:12:07 -0500 (EDT) I am wondering about the possible time-frame of porting AUIS to Irix 5.2. \ I have started to use AUIS (ez) at home with Linux, and would like to start using it here at work. I am not part of this mailing list, so replying direct is the only way I will see a response. If lack of access to a machine that is running 5.2 is the problem, please let me know and I will work something out with one of the developers. Thanks! -- \ geek@imageek.york.cuny.edu hippie@wow.cosmic.com Erik VanRiper (718) 262-2667 Systems Administrator Ask me about cosmic.com! Photon Counter Chemistry Department & MBRS York College, City University of New York \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: submission failed \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Fri, 23 Sep 94 9:21:15 PST dear all I am installing andrew. I'd like to send a mail over messages window in andrew. I have submission fail displayed " can't copy message to /etc/oldsendmail: bloken pipe " do anyone know this error ? let me know how to solve it. bye ! \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: multimedia mail \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Fri, 23 Sep 94 9:41:40 PST dear all I'd like to make multimedia mail. but I think andrew have aready fancy multimedia mailer. I'd like to recommend more advanced mailer by using andrew tool kit. do you have any idea ? \ \bold{Date}: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 01:49:40 -0230 \bold{From}: "KAI S. WONG" \bold{Subject}: Re: submission failed \bold{To}: Hong Sung-Jun \bold{cc}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu me too!! My Personal Info Page: kwong \ On Fri, 23 Sep 1994, Hong Sung-Jun wrote: > \ > dear all > I am installing andrew. I'd like to send a mail over messages window in andrew. > I have submission fail displayed " can't copy message to /etc/oldsendmail: bloken pipe " > do anyone know this error ? let me know how to solve it. > bye ! > \ > \ \bold{From}: Cameron Elliott \bold{Subject}: Help testing new andrew port \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:04:20 -0700 (PDT) I have suceeded to get Andrew to build on the SGI IRIX5.2, but /usr/andrew/bin/ez core dumps! Imagine that! :) I have dbx, any suggestions on paths to testing new ports, also I am not aware of tools for testing the dynamic loading facilities, etc. (In andrew) Any suggestions welcome. (I used dlopen, dlsym, etc) for the dynamic loading facilities. (I basically used the sun_sparc_51/* stuff) -- \ Cameron Elliott cam@vio.com Virtual I/O \ Maker of Head Mounted Displays 1000 Lenora St. Suite 600 Seattle, Washington 98121 (206)382-7412 x819 \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: multimedia talk \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Fri, 23 Sep 94 16:58:16 PST dear all I'd like to make multimedia talk by using andrew toolkit. \ is anywhere already multimedia talk ? let me know how to begin multimedia talk study. I want to know how to make multimedia talk by using andrew toolkit. your response would be appreciated. bye ! \bold{Date}: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 09:17:26 -0400 (EDT) \bold{From}: Nathaniel Borenstein \bold{To}: Hong Sung-Jun , "KAI S. WONG" \bold{Subject}: Re: submission failed \bold{Cc}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu It sounds to me like you've compiled Andrew for the AMS delivery system, but aren't really running it. I think your best bet is to rebuild it with RUN_AMDS_ENV *not* defined. Alternately, you can probably fix this one problem by setting "OldSendmailProgram" in the AndrewSetup file -- type "help setup" for more information. -- Nathaniel \ \bold{Date}: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 11:38:00 -0500 (CDT) \bold{From}: Robert Kemmetmueller \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Re: multimedia mail/talk \excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 23-Sep-94 multimedia mail Hong Sung-Jun@kttdx.kote (193)} \quotation{I'd like to make multimedia mail. but I think andrew have aready fancy multimedia mailer. } After you've got it installed, run \typewriter{~> \bold{messages} }and try it out. \excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 23-Sep-94 multimedia talk Hong Sung-Jun@kttdx.kote (263)} \quotation{I'd like to make multimedia talk by using andrew toolkit. }\quotation{is anywhere already multimedia talk ? let me know how to begin multimedia talk study. } I'm only guessing what you mean by "multimedia talk", but here's a somewhat crude way to use \bold{ez} (yes, it's multimedia) to communicate between different displays: Person #2: \description{ \typewriter{~> \bold{xhost +} } Sit and wait for Person #1. } Person #1: \description{ \typewriter{~> \bold{ez chatfile.d} } Press Ctrl-U Ctrl-X 2. Enter name of Person #2's display (Host: fubar:0.0 , for example). } This basically creates two windows in a single \bold{ez} session, but on different displays. Any changes made in one window are instantly reflected in the other window. Each window has its own cursor, so both people can type, or scribble in a graphical inset, in different places at the same time. \description{WARNING: \smaller{Make sure Person #1 TRUSTS Person #2, because both windows are running as Person #1's userid, and therefore both have full authority to Person #1's directory. Also, whenever one person has the pop-up menus popped up, the other window is frozen until they make their selection. }} You can even do "conference editing" with 3 or more people, simply by repeating the Ctrl-U Ctrl-X 2 thing. Just remember that the warning above applies to all parties involved. It's no substitute for a real (and secure) "talk" program, but it will give you an idea of things you can already do in ATK, and it will let you try out some multimedia insets (\bold{raster}s, etc), styled text, etc etc. Run \typewriter{~> \bold{help} }for more information on topics like messages, ez, raster, etc. \center{ \h{\f{R\e{o\d{b\c{er\b{t K\a{emme}tmu}el}l}e}r }\g{rskm@rchland 3-4968 }}} \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: two question \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Sat, 24 Sep 94 15:25:23 PST dear all I have a two question. firstly, I'd like to use elm mailer by using metamail. how can I get this metamail patch program for elm mailer ? sencondly, I want to know how to convert text or imeage into MIME stanrd. \ in case that has not ez editor(andrew package), is there any way to make MIME styled text or image ? your reply would be appreciated. bye ! \bold{Date}: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 07:36:35 -0500 (CDT) \bold{From}: Terry Gliedt \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Printing on A4 paper Thanks to Klaus Fueller for recommending this change to \bold{$ANDREWDIR/lib/tmac/tmac.atk} for users of A4 paper. The values ere taken from Ewald Standorp's book, \italic{Die Form der wissenschaftlichen Arbeit}, UTB 1975. Paper sizes are: Paperedge: 21cm x 29.7 cm Linelength 16.1 cm (I prefer 16.5) (The .1 comes from pica spacing) Inner margin: 4 cm (Klaus prefers about 3.7 cm) If you want to do outspacing decrease the line length and increase the inner margin. Top margin 4 cm to top of first line, e.g 4.x cm from top edge to basline of 1st line. Textlength on page 23.2 cm from Top of 1st line to bottom of 2nd line This setting results in a left margin of about 1cm and a bottom margin of about 2.5 cm. Of course your roff text formatter must be set up to print A4 paper (whatever that might mean), but once that's done, edit the tmac.atk file and about line 50 you should see lines like the following and change the file to look like these lines: . \\" IZ - initialize. Provide some default settings .de IZ .ll 21c .pl 39.7c .nr PS \\n(.p \\" pointsize .nr VS \\n(.v \\" linespacing .nr HM 2.5c \\" header margin .nr FM 2.5c \\" footer margin .nr LL \\n(.l \\" line length .nr IN 43p \\" indent to allow outdenting headers .nr LT \\n(.l-\\n(INu \\" title length =================================================================== Software Toolsmiths Terry Gliedt tpg@mr.net MIME OK 507-356-4710 \ \bold{Date}: Sat, 24 Sep 94 08:36:22 PDT \bold{From}: mstankus@oba.UCSD.EDU (Mark Stankus) \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: unsubscribe me Please unsubscribe me from this group. Mark Stankus mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu \bold{From}: srinib@valhalla.cs.wright.edu \bold{Date}: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 14:28:12 -0400 \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: unsubscribe me Please unsubscribe me from this group. Srinivas. srinib@valhalla.cs.wright.edu \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: question \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Mon, 26 Sep 94 19:17:18 PST dear all I have a two question. first. let me know how to drew line or circle in andrew. \ I have a ez and rater editor but it can not draw line or circle. \ I'd like know which editor can be drawn. \ second, I'd like to know how to play audio. \ I have a music example program but I don't know how to play music. your reply would be appreciated. bye ! \bold{Date}: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:47:01 -0500 (CDT) \bold{From}: Robert Kemmetmueller \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Re: graphical / audio insets (Was: question) \excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 26-Sep-94 question Hong Sung-Jun@kttdx.kote (381)} \quotation{first. let me know how to drew line or circle in andrew. }\quotation{ I have a ez and rater editor but it can not draw line or circle. }\quotation{ I'd like know which editor can be drawn. } The monochrome \bold{\italic{raster}} inset is pixel-based. The full-color \bold{\italic{image}} inset is pixel-based, as well. For OBJECT-based drawings, with lines, circles, splines, etc etc, use the \bold{\italic{figure}} inset. \typewriter{~> \bold{help figure}} for details. \quotation{second, I'd like to know how to play audio. } \typewriter{~> \bold{help audio}} for a description of the \bold{\italic{audio}} inset. \smaller{(Hmm, it's installed here in andrew/site/, not andrew/atk/-- so \bold{\italic{audio}} might not be available to you)} \quotation{ I have a music example program but I don't know how to play music. } \typewriter{~> \bold{help play}} is the closest thing I've seen (and I think there was some kind of "piano" inset somewhere, too). They were probably platform-specific implementations, and may or may not work on your hardware. \center{ \h{\f{R\e{o\d{b\c{er\b{t K\a{emme}tmu}el}l}e}r }\g{rskm@rchland 3-4968 }}} \bold{From}: sjhong@kttdx.kotel.co.kr (Hong Sung-Jun) \bold{Subject}: question \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Date}: Tue, 27 Sep 94 12:59:41 PST dear all I have a two question. first. let me know how to drew line or circle in andrew. \ I have a ez and rater editor but it can not draw line or circle. \ I'd like know which editor can be drawn. \ second, I'd like to know how to play audio. \ I have a music example program but I don't know how to play music. your reply would be appreciated. bye ! \bold{Date}: Tue, 27 Sep 94 12:39:26 +0100 \bold{From}: tm@rasip.etf.hr (Mirsad Todorovac (ATLAS)) \bold{To}: susan+@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: auis installation, imake problem When tried tu imake in the top auis-6.1.3 directory , result was the following: E:> imake 4: Can't find include file Imake.tmpl imake: Exit code 2. Stop. Question: Which Imake.tmpl should be used in this case (in package itself there is none specified) . Thanks --- Mirsad -- \bold{From}: sp3206@csc.albany.edu \bold{Date}: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:10:32 +0500 \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: need listing of research papers on andrew Dear Sir, I am currently taking a graduate class in operating systems. I have to write a 25 page paper on Andrew. Could you please direct to a source where there are research papers written on Andrew. I ftp'd to \ unix1.andrew.cmu.edu and looked in pub/AUIS/papers but the papers were not "techincal" enough for a graduate level class. I was looking for papers published in journals like Comm of ACM, ACM transaction, etc. \ thank you in advance sanjay patel (sp3206@csc.albany.edu) \ \bold{Date}: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 13:06:52 +0200 \bold{From}: baruffolo@astrpd.pd.astro.it (Gorgo, the monster of the swamp) \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Andrew on Alpha OSF/1 Hi there! I have sent this mail to you some days ago, but I haven't received any answer, maybe there was some problems with mail so I'll repeat it here: I've just browsed through your WWW pages and I'm excited and willing to install and use AUIS on my forthcoming Alpha AXP workstation that will run Digital's OSF/1. I haven't found this system among those listed on your WWW home page so I would like to know wether you are aware of anyone actually using AUIS on Alpha+OSF/1. Furthermore I would like to know if you think there would be problems in installing and using AUIS in a 64bit computer like Alpha. I would like also to know when you plan to release an HTML editor as part of AUIS since I know of many persons here that will be very interested in such a program. Thank you very much for providing this software! cheers Andrea Baruffolo Osservatorio Astronomico Padova, Italy ================== RFC 822 Headers ================== Return-Path: xmosa@vega.pd.astro.it Received: by astrpd.pd.astro.it (UCX V2.0-08) Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:27:37 +0200 Received: by vega.pd.astro.it (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA29940; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:27:05 +0100 From: xmosa@vega.pd.astro.it (xmosa) Message-Id: <9409150927.AA29940@vega.pd.astro.it> Subject: Andrew on DEC Alpha OSF/1 To: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:27:04 +0100 (WET DST) Cc: baruffolo@astrpd.pd.astro.it X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 749 \ \enddata{text,540999848}